but I told you so. I posted a thread a month ago or so wondering about "big papi" and his interstate batting average which coincided with Manny getting busted. Seemed a little bit of a coincidence to me. A lot of people were quick to dismiss the notion and blaming it on mechanics, magic eye drops, etc.... In the end just another cheating loser IMO. http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/news/a...t_id=6148200&vkey=news_bos&fext=.jsp&c_id=bos
I agree. I can't understand the trickling of names every 2 months. We're on pace to find out all 104 names in 4-5 years. Give all the names, let the media and everyone talk about it for a week or so and move on. Doing nothing but hurting the game like this.
The game is already hurt....for good. I don't know hardly anybody anymore who follows baseball, but that may be cause i live in Ohio and we love to trade away our best players for dirt
It sickens me! The day Derek Jeter's admits to PED's is the day I never watch,listen to or read about professional baseball again!
I am a baseball fanatic, and I put no stock in players past entertainment value...but Manny is making me want to kick him in the nuts more and more each day. He says he and Ortiz are mountains and this will not affect them in the least...he DA you just served 50 games for this, and you were positive in 03. You have now been proven to be at the PED thing for a long time. He is a great player, so the next couple years will be very interesting.
I already don't really care about baseball, nor can I understand the personal stake in the matter by fans. Who cares if they used drugs to get stronger? Sure it was cheating, I get that. It was wrong, but who cares? Does it honestly effect any of us, who just watch the game for entertainment purposes? Look at those mountainous men in the NFL, and tell me drug use isn't just as rampant in that beloved sport. I just view this as making a mountain out of an ant hill....especially the way media is handling it...AND congress getting involved. That's a shame when our lawmakers have nothing better to do than to figure out which baseball players used steroids 6 years ago. Congress involvement is BS and a shame. I just view it differently because I view sports as an entertainment source, not part of my life personally.
Is lasik eye surgery cheating? That certainly wasn't available "back in the day". How about coming in the morning of the game so hungover you can barely stand, taking some speed and then hitting a homerun. There was a time when speed wasn't available. How about the records that were made while a whole race of people were excluded from the game, should they have an asterisk? I am not really looking for answers to my questions or even to debate what should be included or not. I am just mentioning some things I think about when I consider the steroid issue in baseball or the difference in a sport of today and how it was 75-100 years ago. There is always going to be an advantage for a "modern" athelete over one from before, whether it is in the way they workout (how good would the Babe have been if he was physically athletic, think when he was a pitcher) or the advantages of modern medicine (lasik, tommy john surgery etc.). What bothers me way more than drugs or modern medicine in pro sports is the way money has taken over the game. Like the kid that's going to quit high school, go to JUCO and then declare for the draft. All of that to make himself more "valuable". Whatever happened to the athlete that loved the game and wanted to make it to the HOF? One of the reasons I quit powerlifting was the insane money grab that was taking over. It made what was once fun, suck. I used to live for baseball college basketball and I enjoyed pro football but now they all just suck. I pay attention and can get sucked into the playoffs but it's no fun just following your team or a league, at least for me. We lost a World Series because of money and I wouldn't be surprised if there is a Super Bowl in jeopardy in the near future and how about the Super Bowl in the "replacement player" year? Sorry for the ramble. I'm just so disappointed in sports these days.
Using steroids to enter into a record book would be more equivalent to running supplemental feeding and food plot systems to add inches of antler....which in that case, yes they ARE entered into the books already. High fences would be more like slapping up a fence 10 ft past the infield, and calling em homeruns.:D
trust me..there are just as many sub .200 hitters who juiced and didn't get to the level of the Manny's Barry's and A Rod's...most never made the big dance. Go back 4 years and 70% of the players were on something that's illegal in the game now. Conservatively.
The best thing about it is that when AROD got outed Big Poopie said anyone who tested positive should be thrown out of baseball. I wonder if he still feels that way. What a hipocrite! It's also funny that Papi and Manny weren't in the Mitchell report but a bunch of Yankees were. Could it have been that George Mitchell was employed by the Red Sox? Probably.
Baseball has pretty much turned into a sport were some kind of steroids are the norm, and it will never be the same again. I say they make every body take a test and if they fail they are gone!
Heck, my baseball "loss of interest" goes farther back than that! I remember back when Roger Clemens was on the Red Sox. It was spring training down in Florida... Clemens was a Cy Young award winning pitcher and probably the #1 pitcher in the world. Anyway, he stepped out on the mound, thew a couple of pitches, then stopped. Word has it he told the coach, "I don't like the condition of this mound. I'm going home". ...and they let him go home for the day! ...and he was (at the time) a record $7.2 million dollar star pitcher!!! Then you had all the problems with doping, drugs, etc... The good old "American Pastime" has been tarnished forever.
