Had to pull a gun on someone

If you are on my fb list you may have already seen this. For those of you who aren't, I'd like your opinions. Last evening my wife and I were at home just finishing supper when we heard someone yelling. The voice kept getting closer until we could see someone in our yard. The person began to walk around our house and bang on our windows. I went to the back door because that's where I could hear the yelling. Not seeing anyone,, I closed the door only to hear the person yelling again and pounding on my front door. By this time my wife is freaked out and wants to call the police, which she does. His banging and unintelligible yelling was so loud by now that I retrieved my 9mm and went to the door. I told the person that if he came through the door he would be shot and that the police were on the way. He continued yelling and beating and kicking my door. When it was all said and done, he and another individual were so drunk they didn't even know where they were. They had driven a car through the field behind my house and had gotten stuck at the edge of the yard. They were both handcuffed and arrested. My point is this. I carry quite often but it was quite different taking it out of the holster and thinking you might actually have to use it. Don't get me wrong, had the person breached the door I would have protected my family but it would have also been tragic to shoot someone who was just drunk and didn't know what they were doing. Thoughts?

Blessings..........Pastorjim

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So what happened when you pulled the gun?

 

I would have done the same thing. Never had to pull a gun on someone though.

Unfortunately, my niece was killed by someone who was protecting his home. She was with a kid who broke into this old mans house who had been robbed before, they didnt know he was home, and the old man ended up killing them both.

The man is facing two counts of second degree murder because the court ruled he used excessive force (he shot each 3-4 times and had his home wired with video/audio surveillance).

 

I would have had the gun out too, no doubt about it.

 

I think ya did everything just right. My home is a fortress, lots light (including motion sensor), high & low tech alarms, 3 dogs and a nine camera surveillence system. I can literally see what's going on outside in preparation for the worst. Once you enter my home...you may get shot. I and my entire family have practiced how we would defend our home and have designated shooting lanes and a plan of action for most situations. Planning is everything, being able to repeat rather than merely respond. I would however not open fire on an unarmed person intentionally...and I would shoot to wound before i shoot to kill which seems counterintuitive. But like I said, i have surveillance so everything inside and outside the residence is caught on video. Being ready for the SHTF situation only means you are prepared and there is nothing better than that. Nobody wants to discharge their weapon into a human but it's good to be ready when evil enters your home.

 

I'd say it's a good argument against getting $h*tfaced and acting like a deranged idiot. Next question.

 

I wouldn't call it tragic. If you're that drunk that you act that way.. it's not a tragedy if you get shot.

But then, I don't think shooting home invaders multiple times constitutes excessive force either.

 

Well Pastor Jim.. In my opinion, a man has to protect his family and self undoubtedly.
With all that's going on in the world today,it's a shame that we have to even live each day as if someone might just kick your door in let alone walking down the street.. I would have to say; if they broke in then "My Staff," would have comforted me, without question. Kill shot? Depending if a weapon was pulled by the person entering. Either way Pastor Jim, glad to have read the situation FROM you instead of having to read about you... God bless.

 

If he would have came through my door, I would have emptied my magazine and had my wife retrieve more.

 

I carry all the time and have pulled a gun on someone before. Being in the military I always would react first without heistation. You did the right thing. If you didnt get your gun and he did bust down the door with a gun you would have been sorry you didnt react to the situation. Nice going glad it all panned out

 

Sounds to me like you handled it the right way.

 

Agreed. I'd of done the same thing and felt the same afterwards.

 

I was always trained that if I pulled my 'staff'... it was to fire - not confront - fire! With that being said, I have never had to pull it - only 'show' it. And if pulled it was 'center of mass... double tap'.

Better to be ready Pastorjim than not - you did right.

 

I'm sorry about your loss but I don't agree with that at all.

 

Hey Pastorjim, I am glad you guys are ok and things worked out. Like frenchbritt123 said, if he had kicked my door in, I would have placed multiple shots in him. I too shoot to kill. As far as the guys being wasted, then sadly they would learn a hard lesson. They knew what they were doing. I doubt very seriously if someone forced them to get drunk. So being drunk is not an excuse. They are glad their stupidity didn't cost them more.
I have pulled my gun before when someone was trespassing outside of my Mom's house. I didn't shoot him, but as he ran off, I emptied the clip behind him. I think he got the point. My Mom has multiple weapons too and she knows how to use them too. I was glad I was there to protect her still.

 

I agree.

I drew my firearm on someone last night as well.

 

Pretty messed up situation for sure, but you definitely did the right thing. As bad as it is to say you never know these days. Drunk or not is not a excuse for behavior like that and I would of done the same no question.

 

I would have done the same. The fact that you made your intentions clear, if he comes through the door you will shoot, is exactly what you should have done. Would be horrible to harm or kill, but no way will I risk the ones I love hoping the drunk idiot is peaceful.

 

Yeah I didnt think that was excessive either...if anything I would think in panic mode you would keep shooting till you were empty. I would have more questions for the shooter who was calm enough to shoot once then stop.

 

Unless I'm out numbered by 3 or more or they have a weapon I won't pull my gun. Unless my daughter is with me. I have no problem shooting someone in self defense but it will be the last resort. I would rather work over a couple of chumps and embarrass them. Staying calm and being able to address the situation is the key.

In your situation my gf would have had the gun and I would have been ready to go toe to toe. Soon my lab will be first defense. It's getting to the point where I can't even wrestle or practice martial arts with my daughter without him trying to defend her.

Now a days pulling your gun and shooting someone doesn't always stand up in court. Pick and choose your battles and how you deal with them. I will server life in prison to know my daughter and gf are alive and well.