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Greg Hardy

Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by NY Bowhunter, Nov 8, 2015.

  1. NY Bowhunter

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    Maybe I'm missing something. What is the deal with the "breaking news" and alarming photos that have been released of Hardys girlfriend he beat up? I don't see what the big deal is. What has changed? There were police reports and investigations long before the photos showed up. What do people think happened?

    I'm not in anyway, shape or form condoning domestic violence or sticking up for him. In fact I think he should be strung up by his sack and beaten himself for putting his hands on a woman. But..... I just don't see why all of the sudden it's a different story because of some pictures.

    Analyst are saying he should be released by the Cowboys. It was ok for him to sign with a team before the photos? But now... he shouldn't play another down in the NFL? I think it's now more the PC thing to say.
     
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    The talking heads have to have something to talk about. I agree with you nothing really has changed, Hardy is still a sack of sh!t, only thing is 7 pictures that the cowboys weren't allowed to see were released.
     
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    My buddy is an NFL coach and coached him before. The guy is crazy as all get out. I cannot stand him at all...he got some money and acts like Mr. Joe Cool. Cowboys are a perfect team for him.
     
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    Same thing that happened to Ray Rice. When the charges were filed he was suspended. When the video was released he was released and banned from football. Once there's actual images for the public to see it changes.


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    I think the if someone does something people may have there own thoughts on the particular incident. Then when you see the images of what really happened it adds a sense of authenticity to it.
    When you say domestic battery you may may think one thing then see the photos of her with the living hell beat out of her.
     
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    Would a picture of the dead body of the dude Aaron Hernandez killed make him more of a murderer?
     
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    Rhetorical question ?
     
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    The guy is a POS.
     
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    Terry Bradshaw has a pretty good comment on all of this.
     
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    I'm sick of the world thinking it is the NFLs job to punish players for what they do off the field. That is the legal systems job.
     
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    I am fairly certain if you were a CEO of a fortune 500 company and you beat your wife or girlfriend you would be fired.
     
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    It is the NFL's job. No question about it. That's the way the real world works. Athletes are paid to entertain the public and they sign a contract that is very clear in regards to what is expected of them. When they fail to uphold their end of the bargain, their employer has an obligation to do something about it.
     
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    That's not what is going on. He was suspended and lost his job. He went through the courts and when finished he was hired again. Now they want him to be fired because the pictures of what he has already been punished for have come out. The public outcry has nothing to do with contracts or what he was expected to do as a player.

    People don't want him playing because they think the courts let him off easy, which they did. So they want to punish him by not letting him have a job. The NFL should treat every player who has had and incident with the law the same, it shouldn't matter if they got probation or jail time. Once their case is done and they are eligible to be employed they should be able to be employed by whoever decides to take the chance on them.
     
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    Don't confuse what the talking heads say vs how everybody feels. It is a topic of conversation because the photos have been released.
     
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    The public funds the league. The league is making a business decision that is best for the league. The public outcry actually has everything to do with it. That's just the way it goes in the entertainment industry.
     
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    I'm not just talking about this case. Since Ray rice it has been the NFL needs to punish these players more for their off field incidents whether domestic abuse or drugs or guns or anything. And that is wrong. If Hardy had been sent to prison rather than let go there would not be the out cry. It would be said he served his time and deserves a second or 4th chance. But since the courts let him off the people want the nfl to punish.

    NFL policy should purely be business policy. If a player commits X crime they are allowed to play once the courts have finished. If they commit y crime they are not allowed back. Not well if the court lets you off we have to suspend where if the court punishes you the nfl does nothing extra. No place else is a person going to be hired after completing their legal punishment and then be told but you will have to miss the first 4 weeks when coming back to work.

    Business policy and punishment for legal incidents need to be separated


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    Bottom line is, if they would stay out of trouble, they wouldn't have to worry about what the NFL did to them. I have zero sympathy for thugs. I don't blame the NFL for trying to clean things up, even if the court system is not willing to.
     
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    Couldn't agree more.


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    NFL is not trying to clean things up. they are trying to make you think they care so they get more money. In the end, it is a business just like any other business. I don't care what the NFL does as long as they do it by a consistent policy. Make a list of crimes, if you commit these, you will never be allowed to play in the NFL again, if you commit any other crime, you will be allowed to play once your serve your punishment from the court.

    Not trying to blow smoke up the collective publics wazoo.
     
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    The only one that is as much of a d bag than Hardy is Jerry Jones. He doesn't care what the situation and how much of a POS a person is as long as it helps his team.
     

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