Also farmers plant winter rye until early to mid oct. It might not get as big as you would like. But it will be good for gun season and some food this winter.
I wouldn't be afraid if you do the clover overseed that Covey mentioned to throw some winter rye in. Cheap seed here at least and germinates nearly everywhere we throw it.
This. Winter rye will practically grow if you throw it on concrete and the deer destroy it come late season/next spring. Over seed the living hell out of it if you are worried about growth
Easiest to implement the fastest...in a year or two though sounds like lack of food could make a large destination plot farmed as Dan stated killer...especially if you than have small secluded kill plots around it between bedding and food....getting excited thinking about it!
Ill probably try this, though it'll only be winter rye and no clover. Clover comes up in that field every year no matter what. In our one field, we planted a clover mix many years ago and now, no matter what we do, it comes back every spring and is a pain in the rear. If I ever do another clover type planting in one of the fields, it'll most likely be a couple acres of RR alfalfa.
I'll completely disagree with this. Putting in a larger destination plot will attract a lot more deer to your property than small plots will, especially with the lack of ag around. You could get one of the larger plots cleared and planted in the spring and if you really wanted to do the smaller kill plots you could do them in late summer.
To give perspective on how attractive winter rye is... Check out page 14 and the few following pages from the link I posted yesterday if you have time. Dbltree documents deer during the later part of the season literally avoiding a bean/milo plot to eat the winter rye... He also goes on to show the deer in that area prefer his friends winter rye plot which is a stones throw away from the Lakoskys standing corn. Outreach Outdoors Forums ? View topic - Cereal Grains and Cover Crops I am excited to see/hear what you end up doing, Dan. Sounds like you have a few prime pieces of property to work with. Hope you can find the time to get a bit of work done!
Dbltree is a freaking awesome guy to follow when he posts. I don't do or agree with everything he does, but I always look to him for how deer interact or like things done...as each deer herd and each individual deer are different. Dude is awesome.
I did some research on this mix, but am confused about something. Correct me if I'm wrong, but some of those seed amounts are close to the seeding rates for that particular seed planted standalone. A couple are more than half the standalone rate. Wouldn't the seed density be too high?
Found this quote a few pages later from that thread.. I haven't done enough research, but I was suspect to planting that much seed per acre as well.
Yes Dan, I remember asking dbltree at some point about this. I would focus more on the blend than the percentages stated.
When planting, you have to consider seed density. The idea of "plant more or less if you want" doesn't make sense. There has to be an optimum seed density. If it's too much, there's to much competition, if it's too little, you won't get a full stand. I know you understand this, but I'm emphasizing it.
Depends some on how it's to be planted. If planted or drilled so that there's good soil to seed contact then good germination is expected but in no-till throw and grow type situations the higher rate is still the way to go because you can expect lower germ rates to start with. Spring oats? Frost kill?
