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Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by pastorjim08, Apr 24, 2011.

  1. ultramax

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    virginashadow, how many us soldiers die because one idiot pastor burning the Koran in a church,maybe as a American he has the right but should he.... Good american service people die over this idiot.

    I am not knocking you here,I like what you do and say here and the next is not pointed at you in any way. thanks

    but there are consequences for things said and done and thing need to be thought through not just done in spite.

    I thought tolerance and forgiveness is the way of any church?
     
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    How many soldiers die from the followers of the Koran period? Your starting to compare apples to oranges.
     
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    Wow, now thats a stretch. Let me get this correct. Your comparing one pastor's comments about tombs of people being filled and the Son of God's not filled, to a preacher in Fl who wanted some national spotlight and publically burn the koran to get his 15min of fame??

    Free country and all, so you can try to make this coorelation. But don't be shocked when folks don't think it makes sense.

    I myself will agree to disagree. I think the post made sense, the post made a point, the post is true, and I myself can't see how any person would be offended. But softskinned folks everywhere who will do whatever they can to try to get thier feelings hurt.

    This is akin to some nortic pagan saying his god carries a big hammer, and my God died on a cross by nails. I can't be offended. Without my God dying on that cross with nails by somebody nailing him there, I cannot be forgiven of sin or be let into Heaven. As far as his god carrying a hammer, all I can think of is, "go build me deck thor, NOW!!!!!!! before I get ticked off".
     
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    How is one group of people telling another group of people there on the wrong side.. weather it's burning there flag or there bible apples to oranges?

    What i am saying is forgiveness and tolerance of others beliefs is how other get along not by kicking in the nads. There called holy wars for a reason.
     
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    You didn't get turned away from religion because of going with your parents. You got turned away because you feel smarter than the average bear. You feel you don't need that foolishness in your life. Because you can regurgitate megs of data that some professor told you. I understand too. Been there and done that when I left college. Its extremely natural.
     
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    Who is not tolerating or forgiving? Your not making much sense here.
     
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    Who kicked in who's nads here? There was a statement made that was extremely true. True no matter what you theory is on how the body of Christ left that tomb. You don't even have to be religious to realize it's a fact. You then twisted this into our soldiers being killed over someone burning the Koran. Thats where the apples to oranges statement came in.

    You still didn't answer my question, so I will ask it again. How many soldiers are killed by readers and believers of the Koran? Did they just now start killing soldiers because some whack job decided to set it on fire, or is this some propaganda you picked up on CNBC? Curious to know.
     
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    Lunger go back to the orig post.... There was no reason to kick sand in other religions face was there.. where is the tolerance in that. I never said anything about christ at all, go back and see for yourself

    As for the guy burning the koran it;s not the first time this has happene and they have no tolerance either for us so that goes both ways and i have a nephew over there kicking in cave doors day in and day out so it effect 's my life every day. and let me tell you having someone you love being tortured over stupid things like this pastor is not a joke. Not one US life is worth all the oil/wmd's/ one terrorist So i will ask you not to go there.

    I am a church going man for 48 years I have left churches for telling me how i am to vote to how i am going to think,all the way up to who my friends are going to be and who to throw away. Some great churches are lead by people that think there way is the only way. Think of how many different branches of Christianity there is.. do they get along NO they dont

    Sorry you dont get it, I just dont see any reason to be little other people's beliefs because they dont fall into mine thats all.
    Best to you guys.
     
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    What sand was there kicked? I still don't see how it knocked buddist? There are fundamental doctrinal differences in Christianity and buddism.

    Our doctrinal differences, was Christ had to beat the grave. Its that simple. Buddist do not have any doctrine that says blood is required to cover sins.

    You know I always wondered who are these people who are so PC, they get thier undies in a bind on every comment. But I think we have finally met one.
     
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    You know I always wondered who are these people who are so PC, they get thier undies in a bind on every comment. But I think we have finally met one.[/QUOTE]

    Pot ...Yes ..Kettel you can dish it out as well there thor:nana:
     
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    Still trying to find where the sand was kicked. The original poster pretty much stated a fact. I'm sorry if those that worship the other gods were offended by the truth. Hell, I'm not even a religious man I can understand religious facts.

    Please don't act like you are the only one effected by the war. I've had several friends come back from there stripped of their soul. My point is that you think that the wacko burning bibles directly corelates to our soldiers dying. Give me a freaking break. Those who follow the Koran have hated us and attacked us long before that guy started burning their bible. Come on man...surely you can get that.

    Pretty much the reason I don't go to church and have my own beliefs on religion as a whole. This I will agree with you on a 100%.

    Sorry if you felt the original post belittled someone elses religion. I read it as someone said that all other worshipped gods tombs are occupied by their corpses and the tomb of Jesus is empty. I can agree with that if I even thought it was empty due to the fact that we really don't know where it is if I wanted to use that point.

    I think the whole point is that why be so PC and to calm down a little. If you think the countries of the other religions are PC then you are living in a land of butterflies and rainbows.
     
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    Well 2 lunger we will just have to agree to disagree then, you feel your way and i feel mine.
    have a good day still.
     
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    See everyone is friends again. if we can get germ to post, then we could all have a group hug and continue the graveyard tour.
     
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    Ha ha!!

    Have a good one ultramax. That's what makes this country a great one even if gas if $4.17 a gallon. A friendly debate and we both walk away without hurt feelings.
     
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    My feelings are still hurt. BC called me a sheep.
     
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    Technically, I am the sheep, that has a shepard. You know the whole flock thing. But I am proud to be.
     
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    I watch & read a lot of these religious threads, generally I stay out of it. If the attitudes and views of the "believers" on this forum are representative of good Chirstian folks, I "pray" I never become one of them.
     
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    Rybo, i sure am not flaming or trying to start a argument. But I am curious, what do you view (especially from this thread) the "attitudes and views" to be of "believers". I know in the past, you said the reason for your beliefs was you took 2 religious classes in college. Has it changed?

    I appoligize seriously to anyone I may have offended.
     
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    No, my religious studies in college were the final verification of the beliefs I held at the time and I never looked back for not being religious.

    I just couldn't help myself taking a pot shot at the hypocrisy and intolerence that I so often see in religions (and christianity specifically only because that is what I am immersed in)
    That's all.
     
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    Fair enough. Thanks for the clarifications.
     

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