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Gold Tip Kinetic Pierce test.

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  1. muzzyman88

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    As some of you know, I've been shooting and testing out the new Gold Tip kinetic Pierce shafts. I had a bit of an issue with getting them to spin true, but I got that resolved and am continuing to shoot them. So, today I had a bit of time to dial in my new Prime Rize and also see how well these arrows shoot.

    First off, accuracy seems to be very good out of my setup. I'm certainly no pro, so 3 inch groups at 40 yards is good for me. These shafts seem to hold their own just fine out to that distance. They do also seem to cut through the wind a bit better than I really expected. I know many claim it's noticeable at long range, but for me, 50-60 is long enough and I do think the smaller diameter has an advantage in that department.

    Now, the one area that I'm very interested in seeing how these shafts fare is in durability, particularly with Gold Tips outsert system and Ballostic collar. I shot a couple arrows today into a year old 55 gallon drum. I realize this test isn't the best, but the drum is a burn barrel and needed drain holes anyway.

    The arrows were shot at 30 yards. Bow is set to 64lbs at 29" draw. Arrow weight is 430 grains. I used 125 grain points here to increase FOC to around 15%.

    As you will see in the pics, the arrow blew through both sides of the drum. I then checked arrow very well and aside from ruined fletching, the arrow still spins true and looks to have held up perfect.

    I want to say that I'm pleased with both the penetration as well as how the arrow fared. Looks promising. I want to shoot these into some more stuff to get more input. Any ideas?

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    HOLY CRAP! that's awesome!!!!!
    I love this kind of stuff!
    I am very very impressed!


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    Dude that's crazy!!

    I'll definitely be looking at those for my next arrows.


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    I also want to say that I don't think the barrel test is an indicator of how these arrows will work on game. This was meant to be more of a test to see how these particular shafts may hold up to a harder impact. Today, I am planning on shooting into a denser medium, a 1/2 piece of partical board.
     
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    I am interested in your findings. I am going to get new arrows,and these are a possibility. Thanks for posting.
     
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    Nice, I shoot the older Kinetics and LOVE them! Considering picking these up for this season, what was the issue with getting them to spin true. I have never had this problem after cutting them down properly and squaring them so I am curious as to what the issue was and if it should be a concern with wanting to purchase these. Thanks!
     
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    The ballistic collar seems to be a bit finicky, at least with the Slick Tricks I shoot. However, if you play with them enough, loosening and turning the collar a bit, then retighten, they all spun good.


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    Was off work today with my little boy who had his tonsils out. So, while he napped, I did tried a few more shots through stuff. The barrel test was neat, but I also wanted to strap on a Slick Trick and see what the whole combo would do. This surprised me. The broadhead arrow passed completely through the steel drum. Only conclusion I can come up with is the cut of the head, combined with the skinny shaft allowed less friction. Perhaps this is a bit of proof of the penetrating advantage of skinny shafts?

    I then inspected the arrow well, then sent it through a piece of 1/2 plywood. It hung up on the fletching but almost made it through. There is certainly more drag with plywood. But, in the end the arrow and broadhead survived just fine. [​IMG]

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    did you square the shafts before installing the insert and the collar?
     
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    Yeah. I use the G5 tool to square both shaft and insert after install. Talked with someone from Gold Tip and he offered a bit of advise. Pay close attention to any glue build up around the seam between insert and shaft when you put it together. If you get excess glue, make sure you clean it up really well. The collar seats on the end of the shaft and if there is any glue there, it can cause the problem. Scrapping it off with a razor blade seemed to help a lot.


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    Thanks for the report. I'm looking for a Gold Tip arrow to replace my Black Eagle Rampages.


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    There is a bit of a learning curve with these shafts, in building them and paying attention to the inserts, but so far, I'm finding them very strong and accuracy is outstanding. I was a bit concerned with straightness on them as they're a .025 tolerance. However, I certainly can not outshoot them. I'm going to continue to shoot them until late spring, early summer, then make a decision on getting more, or going back to my Pro Hunters.
     
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    Do you glue down the ballistic collar or not?


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    Do you glue down the ballistic collar or just use the field point or broadhead to keep it tight?


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    I have not yet, but some are saying a dab of glue can be used. My only reservation is if you happen to bend that collar and need to replace it, it might be a bit of an issue.

    the one irritating thing I have run into is that the field points eventually rattle loose. I'm guessing its because of the collars. I suppose a bit of wax on the threads would fix that, or even a dab of blue locktight.
     
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    how about a shoulder bone? maybe a butcher will have one?
     
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    Any other thoughts on whether the ballistic collars should be glued on?


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    Kgtech, I wondered that, but then, I guess if I can blow through two laters of steel, then use the same arrow to blow through plywood, it should do the job fine on a shoulder.

    fferazzi1, as I mentioned, some have recommended a drop or two of glue on the collar. However, as I said, it may be problematic if you need to remove it in the event that you do bend one.
     
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    I can't speak for the Gold Tip but Slick Tricks hold up well going through shoulders. I shot a doe this year slightly quartering to through shoulder. Broadhead was still good to use again.


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    I've been using slicks for years now and love them. Last fall, I made a bad shot on a buck in Missouri. When I stopped him, he sort of tucked his leg back and I hit him right on the leg bone. He went 30 yards and fell over. The arrow broke both of his front legs and took the top of his heart. Arrow and broadhead survived just fine, but more importantly did the job and bailed me out.
     
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