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Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by Lester, May 16, 2013.

  1. tfox

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    We must save the land for future generations. If the government doesn't pay them not to plant, they will use up the natural resources faster. Kind of a catch 22.

    Problem I see is alot of the set aside is unusable anyway.

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    3.89 now neat

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    Diesel has been a good bit higher than gas here in Bama, still sitting at $3.79, the high octane gas is like $3.50 or so. Kinda wish I didn't have a diesel as a daily driver right now.......
     
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    Still $4.29 up here :bash:
     
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    I'm a trucker and I've been paying higher then hell diesel prices for a while now. Finally you gas folks can eat off the same plate as myself. Sucks don't It??

    As for these crop farmers, they have nothing to ***** about.
     
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    Thisis true, the $4 is probably a sweet spot for them, max profits with max consumptions.
     
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    I wouldnt think its too much to ask to walk 6 blocks, it probably takes you same amount of time to drive and park.
     
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    I'm lucky enough to work from home. Depending on how many groceries I need I will walk to the grocery store or any place else in town. I only drive my truck on the weekend for camping and visiting family.
     
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    $4.00 seemed to be the breaking point here after katrina. That's when people stopped going places. So we used less. Demand decreased and prices dropped.




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    It's clear with Obama's stance on cap and trade, threatening to bankrupt coal companies, and what he said to the editorial board of the San Francisco Chronicle: "...electricity costs would necessarily skyrocket as a result of capping emissions levels, and that my job as president would be to convince the public and Congress that benefits outweigh costs." Obama hates anything oil or coal based.

    Proof is in the cost of gas prices: Bush's 2 term presidency average price was $2.14/gal (first term average price was $1.68/gal). Obama thus far in his first four years has an average price of $2.99/gal. If you take a flat cost of $3/gal, gas was $3/gal or over for 17 total months in Bush's 2 term presidency and has already been at or over $3/gal for 22 total months for Obama's 1 term (so far). Gas prices under Obama have gone up 105% so how anyone can say they are about the same is misinformed.

    We are subsidizing farmers NOT to plant corn AND paying others TO plant corn strictly for gasoline when we have 50 years of oil minding sustained growth available.
     
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    I hadn't filled up in a couple weeks...paid $4.19 at the pump this morning :cry:
     
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    Diesel never moved here. $3.94
     
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    We could grow corn on every availed acre in America, and it would not be enough.
     
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    Corn is not a very efficient biofuel, but it is a commodity, so it gets regulated. Switchgrass has a higher energy yield (and burns cleaner, and produces more per acre planted, etc), but is not traded, so it is not as common with the big energy folks. It is gaining in popularity with the research and small grass roots type of companies.


    Gasoline is not a true commodity. It is a luxury item. It does not impact the cost of consumer goods. Diesel, on the other hand is truly a commodity. Almost everything in your life is impacted by the cost of diesel. Our entire transportation infrastructure runs on it. If you want to get all worked up over why things cost so much, start by looking at what diesel costs.

    ULSD is a sham. That was a play that had nothing to do with the pollution control, but rather a new excuse to inflate the cost of fuel. Sure, it burns 15% cleaner, but due to it's lower energy, you have to burn 20% more of it. Not to mention the fact that it's solvent properties are killing diesel engines that were in service before the mandate was passed.

    I paid $3.48 yesterday morning to fill my truck with diesel in Arlington. It is around the $3.79 point in most of Dallas.

    Natural gas is our best opportunity for energy independence at this point in history. It is abundant, burns clean, is easy to convert existing engines to run on it (gas and diesel alike), it is cheap, and we've got a surplus of it right now.

    I realize that these may read like some tin foil hat kind of theories, but do some digging and draw your own conclusions.


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