For the mechanical guys

that's called a Muzzy HB.

 

Or are they the worst of both worlds? You still have to deal with the tuning & flight issues presented by a fixed-blade head, and get reduced penetration thanks to the opening of the mechanical blades and large cutting surface.

Hybrid heads are for people who are scared of commitment and want to have an excuse in their back pocket when something goes wrong.

Poor shot? Damned fixed blade wasn't flying right.
Bad penetration? Stupid mechanical blades never opened!

Pick a side already.

 

HAH!

well, I am saddle curious, remember?

The Muzzy HBs actually fly to point of aim right with my field points on a bow that admittedly is not well tuned. Their profile in the closed position is not much bigger than a Rage 2 blade, it just goes in 4 directions instead of only 2.

And I have yet to not punch two holes in any animal I have shot with them.

If you look at the design of the HBs, I don't think that other than on entry that the mech blades are 'fully' deployed- the blades encounter resistance along their full length and pivot, probably maintain a kind of quilibrium as they pass through.

 

i dont know enough but have killed mulitple whitetails with 125 gf Schwackers, full pass thrus, in the past. I am now using 125 gr Magnus Killer Stinger Bees and killed a white tail doe this year. full pass thru. So i have both Schwacker and Magnus heads in my quiver. NO issues with either.

I did have a NAP Doublecross bleeder blade not open on a buck a couple years ago, but was still able to make the kill. I havent used them since.

 

but how did they perform on maple trees?

 

I never did get a shot off on a maple. LOL

 

If they make syrup, it is good enough.

 

See all "Don Cherry" cares about is the syrup

In Venatione Veritas

 

This is all I shoot for the last several years. I have had problems with other blades deflecting not these, knocks on wood.

 

We can certainly agree to disagree my friend. I just don't see how a deployment method in which the head has to fold the blades over itself could ever out penetrate the design of a Rage. It makes no sense to me unless you're suggesting a pin hole shot side and fully expanded exit.

As for the scapula, no, unfortunately I didn't even think to take pics of it when I processed the deer. In a nutshell... blades were intact, albeit beat to hell and bent pretty good. The head body itself was perfect and with new blades was ready to go again.

 

No its not in terms of it being used. The crazies pushing this down everyone's throat sure seems to be. It wasn't that many years back that most of us never really though too much about ultra high FOC, weight arrows being a must to kill a deer. I don't know how I killed all those deer with a 375gr arrow and Rocky Mt. mechanical head... lol.

I will say arrow weight is directly connected to the effectiveness of mechanical heads. Its my opinion that where most folks get themselves into trouble with any mechanical, is not having enough arrow to push it home. Pushing 2" of blade through an animal is a lot different than pushing a 1" or 1 1/8" fixed head through one.

 

For the way that most guys hunt whitetails and the amount that shoot big mechanical heads it baffles me why the hell most guys don’t shoot heavier arrows.
Tree stands, poor shot angles at close distances, rangefinders… all point to more positive returns from a heavy arrow verse a slower trajectory.

 

one of the BEST penetrating heads ever devised was the Rocket Steelhead, back in the day, muliple comparisons were done and the 125 gr even out penetrated some major fixed heads, let alone other mechs..

https://www.outdoorlife.com/articles/gear/2007/09/measure-depth/

also, I had a guy challenge me with his Muzzy 3 blade 100gr. (heavier arrow and poundage also) to a 55 gallon drum test with my Steelhead 100's, the Muzzy lost a blade and didnt make it all the way thru, it just punched a hole in the far side.... I blew thru the drum twice, my Goldtip XT Hunter and head weighed 396 grs at the time, shot from a 65 lb Allegiance .. it shut him up .... I still use the Steelhead 100's and the XL's from time to time, glad Ive got plenty left .. ...

 

418 gr Easton 6.5 286fps

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If shooting a Mechanical is harder, why shoot a Mechanical?


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It's not harder for me and millions others.

 

I used to shoot the original Muzzy 100s and eventually switched over to the Grim Reapers because of the blood trails everybody said they got. I was always impressed with them up until last season and this season. I shot a doe with a Slick Trick two years ago and it died within 75 yards, but the bloodtrail was not good at all (near perfect shot).

I have not been impressed with the bloodtrails from the Grim Reapers last year and this year. Maybe they are making them differently than they used to, but I am not impressed...

Anywho, I believe alot of people shoot mechanicals because they, generally, fly with their fieldtips, myself included.


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Is that a bad thing? Never had to tune to accurately shoot slick tricks either.

 

You said some do not have ability please explain? Usually if something takes more ability it is harder.


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