For the mechanical guys

darts, hit same POA as field points. Never had any issue whatsoever, and admittedly my current primary bow (BowTech) is not perfectly tuned.

My Mission, which is the bow I shot that buck with in 16, is tuned and it also shoots them perfect (as expected)

...and did I mention that was a 48 yard shot?
(unintentionally - total misjudged the range in a heavy fog. I got lucky I hit him at all. He ducked right into it.)

 

Everyone knows I no longer will let mechanical heads tip my arrows, BUT if mechanicals were all I had to choose from my thoughts align identically with Justin's without question.

 

I shoot mechanicals and my set up provides me comfort I am not losing much energy in the entry hole. 72# draw weight 29.5 draw length and a 475 grain arrow. The set up is allegedly suitable for water buffalo, like I said nobody ever said I wish I did not shoot that deer so hard.

 

How do mechanicals like the grim reaper or spit fire do on harder quartering shots? Any problems with deflection?

 

I've never personally had an issue with deflection, and I've shot a few at pretty steep angles. This deer was about as sharply quarter away as I would shoot. Went in behind the last rib and buried in the front of the ribcage on the off side. Stand up blood trail for 125 yards to a dead deer.

Not saying it can't happen, but I've seen just as many deflection issues with fixed blades as I've seen with mechanicals. These are verified on animals that were recovered. Not fairy tales and excuses about the one that got away because of some unproven theory about a broadhead not working.

 

I had a NAP SpitFire DoubleCross hit right about at the humerus/scapula joint on a quarter-away, pinched the reverse cut blades shut and effectively became a judo point- barely got penetration. Arrow popped out when he spun. You should have heard him snarl; sounded like a human using a roar call. Needless to say, non-fatal and he got away. When I got down, I found the arrow laying on the ground a few yards from point of impact, facing 180* the opposite direction- with one of the reverse blades snapped off with some hair and tissue wedged into it, and the other never even deployed.





look at that straight line - if you hit a hard surface (ie shoulder/humerus bone) at that angle, you get a judo point. It didn't penetrate any deeper than the fat part of the ferrule.

Thought I couldn't do it again if I tried, yet the next day I took another shot at a buck with a DoubleCross, was trying to sneak it through a small opening and clipped a maple tree trunk- the head stuck into the tree. Again, the reverse cut blade bent and jammed shut (due to the curvature of the tree, at point of impact, the leading tip and the reverse cut blade hit just right to create that effect.) Fricking crazy.

 

The Grim Reapers fly exactly like my fieldtips... I tried SEVR and they were great horizontally, but high. I have not been happy with the blood trails this year with the GR, so I am willing to try something different next season. Maybe something around a 2" cut? I am shooting a VXR at 65# and 28.5" draw, so a 2" cut should be fine.

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Blood trails are driven by few things but main ones that make it better IMO:

-two holes
-Sharpness, most broadheads I see mass produced just never are as sharp as I feel they should be.
-Penetration and surface area cut as well to a degree. The more you cut (deep and width) more chance for blood creation.
-location of hit

 

that is only 1/2 of the equation, but you are likely correct.
You are not mentioning the other half, which is your arrow.

 

other than point#2, no arguements.

I see a ton of mass produced heads that are crazy sharp, problem with most of them is the steel is super thin and soft and doesn't hold said edge.

 

I have no idea why they don't fly worth a crap for me. 2 different models, 2-3 packs of each, and they are all over the place. The only thing I can think is I got hold of some counterfeits that all went to the same pro-shop or maybe they had a really bad QC batch for a month or so. I've never had any brand of mechs do that before or since. I bought them in 2013, and have gone back a couple times over the years to see if it was me, or then the bow. Nope- they all fly like paper airplanes.

 

see my comments above- like as not it was due to a pinch like I experienced on the DoubleCross.

 

you do know, with a good fixed head, that wont happen .. just sayin ..

 

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Dammit, I got all fevered up

 

Some people just do not have the ability and confidence to shoot a mechanical....and that's ok

 

doesn't happen with the Muzzy HBs, either. Like I said, even if you glued them shut you would still have a 1" x .75" cutting diameter.
Those experiences were when I was experimenting a lot, back in 2013-2017.

I have pretty much settled on the conviction that the Muzzy HB is by far the best overall BH for whitetails, when shooting adult arrows with adult draw weights (baseline of 60#, 400gr TAW. Variances given to heavier arrows or heavier draw weights.) Tough, sharp, big holes, bone busting, deep penetrating.

I keep playing around with others, but I haven't seen any heads that I would say are better.

No personal issues with fixed heads, other than one doe when I was about 16 that I shot too far back, I haven't lost a deer I have shot with a fixed head. I still shoot them from time to time, including on my stick bow.

 

I've shot 200 deer and about 55 bear with an arrow.
I "think " I have both?

 

Do the math

 

"About 255"???
Sorry OP. Mech head threads turn me sideways.
Will not respond again

 

Not going there trying to be nice