I think if you can shoot a faster bow without any real sacrifice then why not? With today's technology that's essentially how it is on these newer bows. Also I like having my pins fairly stacked because I have a lot more confidence in hitting my target if I don't know exact yardages. Especially past 30 yards.
I fall somewhere inbetween those two scenarios. I shoot a Destoryer 340 at 60 pounds draw weight with 370 grain arrows. I have 125 grain broadheads on my shafts to increase their weight and FOC as well.
I bought a Destroyer 350 for a couple reasons: 1. the flatter trajectory for same draw weight 2. it is really quiet. I shoot a 400 grain arrow, 28" draw, 64#, 306fps. My last bow was much louder and shot the same arrow, same set up 274fps. My dad bought the Destroyer so he could shoot the same speed with less draw weight. Jim Davis 3G Tactical www.3gtactical.com
Jeff, The funny thing is, it seems that while about half the guys are wanting to shoot a HEAVY arrow out of these bows, there is still the OTHER HALF that are trying to shoot the lightest arrow they can out of these bows. See Ultramax's post above. I suspect MOST of these guys are not only shooting weak spined arrows, but they are also often times having trouble getting those arrow to tune well.[/QUOTE] since you used my name ... ?? Maybe tuning a bow is a black art , not to all. First i am over the 5grains per lb IBO rating for my bow. and the bow shoots great and i have zero tuning problems with this setup. trust me i have over 40 years of shooting and tuning bows and this bow is not undersplined rip's a perfect hole and is the best shooting bow i have ever owned. arrow spline and arrow weight are two different things. I bought a speed bow to do just that.Arrow speed ........why add arrow weight when the bow paper tunes and drives tacks. and one pin out to 30 yards is a flat shooting bow. Paper tuning and target shooting your bow is the test that each of us needs to tell if the arrow is right for each of are setups, And knowing what to adjust and change is just part of what everyone needs to do to achieve a perfect ''hole'' Arrow spline charts are a guide not a factsheet, what works for you may not work for me and so on. it takes work ,granted some more then others. either learn how to or find a pro shop that can.:D
With all due respect....it's SPINE. And, there isn't a bow mfr'd that will shoot flat to 30yds. Not trying to be argumentative. Just stating a fact.
sorry GMMAT your wrong and you always argumentative.......maybe you should read your post sometime. now you should smile because you know thats true. are you the bow site spell check now.??? or just just a keyboard bully you pick . and yes my d350 shoots 1 pin out to 30 yards would you like to hold the apple?and i am willing to fudge here ,maybe not laser flat but 1 pin none the less. you recurve guys are just haters..... next you will be telling me you shoot bigger deer than me.:D oh ya you live where there are no big deer so it's not your fault. Dont get upset im not
Can we just have some make up sex via the start of the hunting season to ease some of the tensions around here!!!!!
What exactly am I wrong about. Just curious. I ran the numbers one time. A bow (or anything launching a projectile) would have to launch the projectile at over 5Kfps. to "almost" be flat to 30yds. Can you set one pin for 30yds? Sure. You can also set one for 70yds, if you realize you're compensating. This isn't rocket surgery. And, I TRULY am not being argumentative. No reason to be.
I use one pin out to 30 yds even with my 233 fps arrow. There is zero advantage to a flat(ter) trajectory. I have heard all kinds of made up BS about why a flat(ter) trajectory is needed and have yet to hear anything remotely realistic. If you can hit what you are aiming at, where you are aiming, the trajectory makes no realistic difference at all. For every scenario where a flat(ter) trajectory will be a benefit in brush, trees, open fields, etc. I can come up with a scenario where a arching trajectory would be a benefit.
You also realize the compensation you're allowing for. And, you KNOW I'm not arguing with you.....lol.
Bruce... Just so we can "argue" a little, though ()..... Do you not see an advantage to a flatter trajectory....IF you're shooting at unknown ydgs? At known ydgs....I agree with you 100% (and might change my mind, anyways, based on your explanation!)
No, unfortunately he's right on both counts. Actually, that was my job on "the other" site. He was just filling in until I got here. No, it's a truly wonderful thing when there's actually someone else involved.
It would reallly depend on how far the actual distance was and how far you were off. If the distance were 50 yds and you guess 44 yds you would be 6 inches off at 306 fps. Seems to me that, instead of getting the fastest bow and trying to compensate for unknown yds that it would be a whole lot easier to make sure you have a rangefinder and use it. EDIT: Especially at longer distances.
First my post was to ohbow. who re-posted something i posted, so you need not feel the need to step in or correct me in any way. second if you you look at all my post on this site you will not find one mean or neg post ever.... you like to stir the pot and thats fine, I like to to help and meet people on here that does the same as i do. OK " rocket surgery" your words................ now That's a correction moment I am not mad, we are not all the same and i am glad of that, you can read the post and see the point i was trying to make. I am not trying to pull you into more of what has already been discussed and would like to leave it as we agree to disagree.. maybe in grammar or spelling or how to set up a bow and how fast it is. It is what it is
Rocket Science / Brain surgery - hybrid. I absolutely meant NO malice. The "my bow shoots flat to ____yds" is just a pet peeve. I apologize.