I am going to be replacing my string this week and was wondering how important the weights on the strings from the factory are. I have not had a bow that had them before so I have no idea if you can buy them. If so do I install them back where the factory ones are??
It would be beneficial to put weights back where they were from the factory. These weights act as slingshots to your string if placed in a certain spot and give you what I like to call free speed. If you move them around and try different configurations you can even gain more than what you get out of the box. If you place them in the wrong spot you will lose speed.
That's what i was thinking. I read something about them back when I first started shooting but, didn't think it was that important at that point in time. I had other things like form that was a little more important at the time.
Good advice. I always measure them on a factory string and put them back EXACTLY where they were. They can typically make a pretty substantial difference in not only adding a bit of speed but also "deadening" the shot down.
I had planned on shooting the chrono without first, then with where the factory's were and see if it made much difference. My bow is at the shop right now having strings made for it. I should have it back towards the end of the week. I can play around with the brass nocking points and see what happens. If it only picks up a couple feet a second, I won't worry about putting them back on.
I have seen anywhere from 0-20+ish difference in speed with weight vs no weight. The positioning of the weight is crucial.
Those who say it is a small increase in speed have not seen what they can do. I have seen first hand through a chrono with same bow and setup speeds increase up to 3-7fps. Thats alot for adding a few small "speed nocks" to the top and bottom part of your string near your cams. Also help dampen noise and vibration some as well. Like others have said, putting them in the wrong spot (closer to the center nocking point) can slow the bow down and add vibration.
7 fps is nothing in the real world. Without the chrono you would never know it. Probably less than 5 fps.
I agree with tfox that the increase isn't really large. However, if you're a tuning freak and want to get everything you can out of it, you might as well. I noticed on my Allegiance that without them, there is a noticeable buzz to the string without them. Thats the biggest reason I always put them back on.
3-7 Fps may not be that big but "usually" when having weights VS not having weights the increase is 10+ as long as they are in the "sweet spot". some may say 10 fps isn't that much, and it really isn't if your talking trajectory, but in the world of momentum and KE that 10fps can help you more than you think in terms of knock down power.
I doubt seriously that hoyts nocks add 10 fps. I've done this a long time and I never saw a useful advantage to them. The bow in question has a string stop so there should be almost zero string buzz. I know mine doesn't and there are no nocks on it. As far as momentum and ke. My son gets passthroughs with a 40# bow at 25" draw. If you feel that at most 5 ft lbs is worth it then go for it. I will be finding out soon because my sons bow will not be having them put back on when he gets new rigging. Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk
I was talking about bows in general not specifically Hoyts. As far as getting passthrus with #40lbs, I know you can, I have a family friend that hunts with 37lbs and has shot many bear and deer, I did not say that I feel the 5 Ft/lbs is important, I was talking about most people in general. Most people try or at-least want to get the most out of their set-up as they can.
Some food for thought: Are we getting the most out of our setup when we go for the absolute fastest arrow we can get? Or: Are we getting the most out of our setup when we get the most efficient transfer of stored energy from bow to arrow?
Sorry I didn't mean you specifically. I should have stated if a person (anyone) feels its beneficial then go for it. Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk
I typically tune my bow to be the most forgiving I can make it. Creep tuning and such and let the speed fall wherever it falls. Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk
All I am worried about is the speed in general. If the bow is faster, its faster no matter what your arrow weight is. I will be shooting 3D soon so I want a light fast arrow. Now come August, I will tune the bow for hunting and will probably be using a bit heavier (not 600gr or anything like that) arrow. Either way I want the most speed out of my bow so that what ever weight arrow will be using will be faster.