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Ethics....???

Discussion in 'Intro to Bowhunting & Archery' started by BOWHUNTANDLIVE, Jul 11, 2014.

  1. maxpetros

    maxpetros Grizzled Veteran

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    I too have a pin well over 90 and I can put it on target consistently. Keep in mind that is not saying I have mind blowing groups. I simple can consistently put my arrow in a 36x36 inch target at 110 yards. Now I would never shoot at an animal over 50 in ideal conditions; but there are a hell of a lot of people who could do it and in fact do practice at ridiculous ranges, making them capable of longer shots.


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    I would never argue that point...and as recreation and target type "archers" would do...they continually push their limits to become more proficient at those longer ranges.. and thats awesome. I would even watch! I was simply triggering the hunting ethics of it all...but it seems overwhelmingly "unpopular" to attempt to take an animal with archery tackle at ranges over 50 yds...not because of our own abilities, but because of the unpredictable nature of the animals we chase........
     
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    Just watch this video, fast forward to the end to see the result of you don't want to watch the whole thing. This guy doesn't take long shots on animals but this just shows what a bowhunter can do. He isn't a target archer and is just a hardcore bowhunter.

    http://youtu.be/ld0kOyzu2PQ


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    Again...it can and has been done and theres folks out there a heck of a lot more proficient than me....and they can take and make those kinds of shots....but I GUARANTEE that if they took those shots regularly...they would wound more animals than kill...and they have little control of either...
     
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    I am not saying that just because they can shoot longer ranges proficiently they can kill animal at long range. Too much comes into play on the animals side and weather conditions. However in a perfect scenario there are many who could easily make the shot ethically.


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    long range practice, beyond 60yds is more about perfecting form, so the shots made at shorter distances are good. I personally won't shoot even at 60yds unless the conditions are just right. But I practice for that shot, just in case the conditions are perfect that one time. YMMV
     
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    I feel that it would be an unethical shot no matter how much practice you have at those ranges and beyond. As many people have said previously, there are just too many variables that you can not control at that distance. These variables multiply at that distance due to the time it takes from the release of the arrow til the time it reaches its target. How many times have we seen either in the woods or on tv a deer that is one second broadside suddenly whips around and is now facing away from you giving no shot at all in less than a second. Even if your target does not hear your release, that doesn't mean a twig snapping ten yards from him that you don't hear isn't going to spook him. Now your perfect shot hits him in his hind quarter and he limps off wounded, but not mortally. I respect the fact that people are comfortable out at those, and past those distances, but there is just too much that you can not control which I feel makes it unethical take that shot.

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    sachiko Die Hard Bowhunter

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    Shooting at a target 90 yards away? Sounds like fun. Shooting at a live animal 90 yards away? That would be wrong. A little wind, a little movement by the critter, maybe your aim is just a hair off, and you have a wounded animal.
     
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    Unethical
     
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    Ethics is going to be ultimately defined as what the individual deems right or just, which means that it will differ. For a society, for the most part, it is unethical to steal, cheat, kill, etc. When things don't directly affect the human society or individual directly in some dire circumstance or any other way is when it tends to be left up to interpretation. Whew!

    Now, the only reason to have a 90 yard pin - for fun. I don't have one because I'm not stable enough to shoot those distances accurately enough for repeatable favorable outcomes. My family owns a meat processing business. Guess which animals come in gut shot or shot twice (either one gut and one double lung or one hind leg and one double lung)? The mule deer shot during the January bowhunt because it's "common" to have 60 + yd shots. Long story short, there are to many variables out in the hills to shoot an animal at 90 yds the way it needs to be done. Some will disagree and that's ok.
     

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