I just got a new bow (Hoyt Alphamax 32) a couple weeks ago so I had to get new arrows to goa along with it. A friend of mine got the Flatlines when he got his new bow a year ago and I shot one off my old bow and wow what a difference. I decided that is what I wanted. Started at 20 yards and the arrows are touching, moved to thirty and I can put 4 in a 2 inch circle, move out to fourty and still all in the heart of our deer target. Dad was out there with me and he has never set his 40 yd pin but figured what the heck. His arrows (Walmart Carbon Arrows) where hitting about 10-12 inches low of POA, I handed him one of my flatlinesm, the Flatlines are 6 inches high of POA. That's a 17 inch difference between the two. Now he wants some. ok the run down: Hoyt Alphamax @~63 lbs, 28" dl Whisker Bisket (med, the small will be here Friday) Easton Flatline 340, 28", blazer vanes, 100gr points. three pin sight set at 20, 30 & 40 yds. Can't wait for bow season... or spring turkey.