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Eastern Sports and Outdoor Expo - The fall out

Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by muzzyman88, Jan 19, 2013.

  1. trial153

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    Not a big fan of the Matthews statement at all, read their justification in the first sentence and that about sums it. Lost me as customer period.




    "The Eastern Sportsman Show in Harrisburg is the largest outdoor consumer show in the nation, and by no means has Mathews boycotted the show. We have had 3-4 Mathews Retailers representing their store as well as our companies products for some time. As far as the second amendment goes, we are hunters and sportsman just like you. We have a large number of lifetime NRA members and everyone in this facility believes in our Second Amendment rights. We thank you for your support of Mathews and our Second Amendment rights. "
     
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    Scott, I don't know the exact reasoning for you asking, but here's a post I made in another thread.....

    I wouldn't be so quick to black ball some of the companies that are still attending. While its great what you're doing to champion the guys who have decided to take a stand, some of the other companies can't afford NOT to attend. Its not just about making a few bucks for them, its about surviving as a company. These small companies depend on this show to get them through the year and without it, they could fold up. They order extra inventory for this show alone and not turning over that inventory could cause them to go bankrupt.

    As sportsmen, we need to stick together and that includes supporting everyone in the industry. I would have liked to see Todd make a little bit more of a statement as to why he was attending, but I know him well enough to understand why he has to go.

    Again, I applaud you for championing those that are boycotting, but take a minute and think about the vendors that are still attending and maybe try to understand that they have mouths to feed.
     
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    If there is a firearm manufacturer or a firearm accessory manufacturer still attending they will never see a dollar of mine... Ever. Will I begrudge someone selling t shirts, canned hot peppers or sham wows? No.

    That is just how I see it.
     
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    That I agree with, as the ruling directly affects them.
     
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    Ruger is out as of a few minutes ago.
     
  7. cls74

    cls74 Legendary Woodsman

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    That is good news, wonder if they were trying to lobby them to reconsider and failed? can't think of any other reason they would have waited so long to pull the plug. They were the first ones I emailed a few days back.
     
  8. trial153

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    Ruger, Gamplan and Thermcell are out...
     
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    Don't know but I'd of hated to try to change my dogs name, email, usernames ect if they had stayed in. Has there been any coverage of this boycott on the national news? We don't watch tv and was curious if the media that was so quick to publicize ows and every gay rights (privelage) boycott(chic-fil-a) had anything to say about it.
     
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    I know for a fact that some companies I spoke with were hoping for a reversal from Reed and the show, hence not forcing them to make a choice.

    There is supposed to be a press release or announcement today from Reed and the show, I will post it when I get it.

    Reed, and where they are located is a good example to look at and see what we are fighting against. Do we end up like most of Europe where firearm ownership has been criminalized by most countries? Look at has happened to hunting in most of Europe where it is mostly a sport that the common man can no longer gain access or afford to hunt, or own arms to hunt.

    I hate the fact that something like a Sportmans show will factions in the American outdoor industries but I also think that our backs are against a cliff and the people that want to take our second amendment rights wont stop unyil they are all gone.

    I have a son that isnt even two yet and for him to enjoy the same freedoms, loves and passions that I been so lucky to enjoy ..... well then I better get off my *** and start fighting for his future rights.
     
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    You need to re-read the last page of this thread. They never planned on going, they may have private dealers that don't back out but they can't control that. Just a heads up. I read the first sentence wrong at first and was pissed...happy I re-read myself maybe you did the same thing. Be nice to know what they "would have done" if they were going.
     
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    Latest figure I heard was something like close to 300 vendors have cancelled so far. Thats out of the 1200 slated to be there. Of course there are probably others that aren't showing, but didn't announce.

    As for Mathews, they haven't been at the show, as a company in years. There are usually a handful of dealers there every year. If a dealer chooses to attend, its not Mathews fault.

    I do not blame or condemn those little companies that will attend. Sorry, but a man's got to eat and feed his family and if the revenue from this show helps that, who the hell are we to blame them? I'll support them, whether they're in or out. Now the big companies, where this is a drop in the bucket... different story.

    Either way, this is turning into quite a display from the 2nd amendment crowd. I smell a lawsuit over this...
     
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    See, we agree on a lot more than just crossbows!:D
     
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    I agree with you Muzzyman. Bigger companies that won't be affected by the outcome or attendance of the show should cancel. Smaller companies or start up companies for that matter might be trying to make their first real presence and are putting all their eggs in this basket.
     
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    :lol: Then I rescind my statement. C'mon Dan, I have to have some place to come and play "internet tough guy". ;)
     
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    The point I was trying to say (and I think most understood what I meant) was I can handle the small guy who backs out after consideration cause he has a lot to lose with that choice, in fact to take 1 step further I wouldn't hold it against them if they still attended, but big named people like Lee and Tiffany (who for all intent purposes don't need the $ from this event) to wait.....they are the people I'm speaking of and just today Summit Treestands, IMHO they and the other huge Companies who are just now saying they aren't going are doing it for public opinion and that's it, knowing the back lash from us (Hunters) I'm glad like someone stated that Cabelas and many others came out right away !!!!
     
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    here is a short list of drop outs, almost feel like sending every one a thank you letter


    2 Million Bullets
    24/7 Hunting TV
    Alaska’s Ravencroft Lodge
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    Ambush Firearms
    American Whitetails of PA
    Antler Insanity
    Apex Tactical
    Appalachian Big Game TV
    Arrowhead Outdoors
    Athens Archery
    Atlantic Tactical
    Avian X Decoys
    Bangin Redhedz Turkey Gear
    Bear Archery
    Big Game Butter
    Blitz TV
    Bohning Archery
    Boondock Outdoors
    Bow Hunter’s Den
    Bow Life, LLC
    BowHunter Planet
    Bowhunting.com
    Cabela’s
    Camo Addiction
    Campbell Cameras
    CanCooker
    Cochrane River Outfitters
    Cody Turkey Calls
    Cold Steel Knives
    Combative Edge
    Continental Divide Outfitters
    Cross Canyon Arms
    Cutting Edge Bullets
    Darkwoods Blind
    DCVR
    Dead Ringer
    Deer and Deer Hunting.com
    Direct Action Tactical Firearms
    Dirty Dog Outdoors
    Domari Nolo Defense Consulting
    Dominance is Everything Hunting System
    Dominator 365
    Down N Dirty Outdoors
    Driven TV
    Droptine Outfitters
    DuckWater Boats
    Eastern Chapter Wild Sheep Foundation
    Eastern Outdoors
    Easton Bow Hunting
    Excalibur Crossbow US, Inc
    Farmland Trophies Outfitting
    Fear No Evil
    Field Proven Calls
    Firearms Industry Consulting Group
    Flatline Productions
    Foiles Migrators, Inc
    Forbes Turkey Calls
    FOXPRO High Performance Game Calls
    Full Circle Outdoors
    Furtakers TV
    Ghost River Outfitters – Alberta
    Gone Wild Outdoors
    Goodling Rifles
    Gut N Tag, LLC
    H.S. Specialities
    Heartland Whitetails
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    High Lonesome Outfitters
    HookHunt
    Horton Archery
    Hoyt Archery Inc
    Hunter Safety Systems
    Hunter Specialties w/ Rick White
    Hunters and Guides Connection
    Hunters Comfort, LLC
    Hunter’s Specialties
    Huntin’ Is Good! TV
    IceHole Coolers
    International Bowhunting Organization
    Iron Kin Hunt Club
    IScope
    J & M Traditions
    Keystone Country Store
    Keystone Elk Country Alliance
    King of the Mountain Inc.
    Kinsey’s Outdoors
    Kodabow
    Lancaster Archery Supply
    Major League Bowhunter
    Mathews Inc
    Men in Treestands Productions
    Midwest Whitetail Adventures
    Mindful of Nature LLC
    Mountain Dog Chews
    Muddy Outdoors
    Muskie Moose, LLC
    NasHunt Outdoors
    Nature Blinds, LLC
    NasHunt Outdoors
    Northern Hideaway Outfitters
    Northern Outdoor Lodge
    Northern Wilderness Outfitters
    Old Goat Outdoors
    Open Season TV
    Outdoor Channel Outfitters
    Outdoor Edge Knives
    Outdoor Specialist Grou
    Outdoorsnative.com
    Ozonics Hunting
    PA Federation of Sportsmen’s Clubs
    PA Taxidermist Association, Inc
    Pat Strawser Custom Calls
    Pennsylvania Trappers Assoc.
    Perry’s No Peep Archery Site
    Pipeline Ridge Hunting Preserve
    Primal Urge Outdoors
    Primos Hunting Calls
    Proc’s Huntin Buddy
    PSE Archery
    Radical Hunter
    Ranew’s Outdoor Equipment
    Red Star Arms
    Revolution Hunting
    Rhino Outdoors
    Rougeaux Taxidermy
    Ruger
    S & W Outfitter
    SecureIt Tactical
    Skull Shine
    Smith and Wesson
    Southern Game Calls
    Spook Span
    Sportsmen of North America TV
    State Line Bone Mine
    Staudt’s Gun Shop
    Stay Ready Inc
    Strother Archery
    Stokerized Stabilizers
    Susquehanna River Waterfowlers Assoc
    Table Mountain Outfitters
    Team Overkill
    Ten Point
    The Bear Whisperer
    The Outdoor Loop
    The State Line Bone Mine a NW Missouri and Iowa outfitter
    The Warmbag
    Timberline Outfitters
    TNT Archery
    Tough Country
    Trijicon, Inc
    Triple Mag TV
    Trop Gun Shop
    Turnbull Manufacturing
    U Slide Bow Hunter
    Ultimate Camo
    Umax Outdoors
    Upper Canyon Outfitters
    Wallaston Lake Lodge
    Tex Mex Outdoors
    The Warmbag
    Watson Air Lock
    Watt’s Truck Center
    Whitetail Bosses
    Whitetail Freaks
    Whitetail Heaven Outdoors
    Whitewolfsurvivalsupply.com
    Wired Outdoors
    Woodcock Limited of Pennsylvania
    X-Stand Treestands
    Zink Calls
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    RMEF is out. Just got their email alert
     
  19. trial153

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    I dont re to re-read anything. The statement they( Mathews ) made is very clear thank you. And I still stand by not agreeing with it or the rational. And I am very much in agreement with you that it would be nice to know they " would have done", but alas its a non issue as they aren't and weren't planing on being there.


    On a positive note I noticed that Whitetail Heaven Outfitters is on the drop out list. If the is the Ky outfitters I am thinking about I have couple of friends who hunted with them in the past and they had very good things to say about them. I also seen they are well reviewed on Bowsite. Someone looking for a deer hunt its a good place to look into.
     
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    Guessing they didn't issue the press release?
     

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