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Eastern Sports and Outdoor Expo - The fall out

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  1. muzzyman88

    muzzyman88 Die Hard Bowhunter

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    It appears that the fishing/boating crowd is starting to slowly follow suit. My guess is that those that are left are starting to figure that the crowds will be down significantly, making any profit from the show negligible at best.

    Glad to see everyone standing up for this. So long as the little guys that attend don't get hurt much financially, I'd love to see the show be a ghost town by the end of the week.
     
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    If your thinking about making a purchase or going on a hunt take a quick look at this list see if their are any companies that could help you with their products and services. Some super good companies on here that are standing up with us, help them recoup back some of their loses with your business. Also if you know any vendors on the list have them contact http://mynortheastoutdoors.com/ and get set up in the virtual show describe below.


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    2 Million Bullets
    24/7 Hunting TV
    Absaroke-Beartooth Outfitters
    Alaska’s Ravencroft Lodge
    Alaskan Outdoors TV
    Ambush Firearms
    American Whitetails of PA
    Antler Insanity
    Apex Tactical
    Appalachian Big Game TV
    Archery Tag
    Arrowhead Outdoors
    Artistic Visions Wildlife Studio
    Athens Archery
    Atlantic Tactical
    Atsko, Inc. / Sno-Seal Inc.
    Avian X Decoys
    Backwoods Whitetails Outfitters
    Bad Boy Inc.
    Bad Dog Accessories
    Banded Calls
    Bangin Redhedz Turkey Gear
    Bear Archery
    Beavertail Products
    Big Game Butter
    Blitz TV
    Body Guard 360
    Bohning Archery
    Boulder Basin Outfitters
    Boondock Outdoors
    Bow Hunter’s Den
    Bow Life, LLC
    Bramco / Golden Valley Enterprises
    Briley Outfitters
    Buck Bomb
    Burt Coyote Lumenok
    C&D Outfitters
    Cabela’s
    Camo Addiction
    Campbell Cameras
    CanCooker
    Central Penn Sporting Clays & Game Preserve
    Chaparral Hunting Adventures
    Cochrane River Outfitters
    Cody Turkey Calls
    Cold Steel Knives
    Combative Edge
    Continental Divide Outfitters
    Cross Canyon Arms
    Cutting Edge Bullets
    Darkwoods Blind
    DCVR
    Dead Ringer
    Deer and Deer Hunting.com
    Direct Action Tactical Firearms
    Dirty Buck Soap and Scents
    Dirty Dog Outdoors
    Domari Nolo Defense Consulting
    Dominance is Everything Hunting System
    Dominator 365
    Dokken Oakridge Kennels
    Down N Dirty Outdoors
    Drakes Migration Nation
    Driven TV
    Droptine Outfitters
    DuckWater Boats
    Dunn Knives
    Eastern Chapter Wild Sheep Foundation
    Eastern Outdoors
    Easton Bow Hunting
    Excalibur Crossbow US, Inc
    Farmland Trophies Outfitting
    Fear No Evil
    Field Proven Calls
    Firearms Industry Consulting Group
    Firenock
    Fish Outdoor Properties
    Flatline Productions
    Flyway Custom Sales
    Foiles Migrators, Inc
    Forbes Turkey Calls
    FOXPRO High Performance Game Calls
    Full Circle Outdoors
    Furtakers TV
    GhillieSuits.com
    Ghost River Outfitters – Alberta
    Goey Hunting Calls
    Gone Wild Outdoors
    Goodling Rifles
    Grand-Safari.com – South Africa/Tanzania/Cameroon
    Gut N Tag, LLC
    Hart Rifles
    H.S. Specialities
    Heartland Whitetails
    Herd Guard
    Hevi-Shot
    High Lonesome Outfitters
    HookHunt
    Hoyt Archery Inc
    Honey Creek Outfitters
    Hunter Safety Systems
    Hunter Specialties w/ Rick White
    Hunters and Guides Connection
    Hunters Comfort, LLC
    Hunter’s Specialties
    Huntin’ Is Good! TV
    IceHole Coolers
    International Bowhunting Organization
    Iron Kin Hunt Club
    IScope
    J & M Traditions
    Katahdin’s Shadow Outfitters
    Keystone Country Store
    Keystone Elk Country Alliance
    King of the Mountain Inc.
    Kinsey’s Outdoors
    Kodabow
    Lac Suzie Outfitter
    Lancaster Archery Supply
    Lanco Tactical
    Leupold & Stevens Inc.
    Lone Oak Retreivers
    Major League Bowhunter
    Masterpiece Outdoors, Inc.
    Men in Treestands Productions
    Midwest Whitetail Adventures
    Mindful of Nature LLC
    Montana Mountain West Outfitters
    Montana Whitetails
    Mountain Dog Chews
    Mountain Hollow Game Calls
    Muddy Outdoors
    Muskie Moose, LLC
    NasHunt Outdoors
    National Wild Turkey Federation
    Nature Blinds, LLC
    NasHunt Outdoors
    National Rifle Association
    Northern Hideaway Outfitters
    Northern Outdoor Lodge
    Northern Wilderness Outfitters
    North Mountain Pepper Works
    O.F. Mossberg & Sons, Inc.
    Old Goat Outdoors
    Open Season TV
    Outdoor Channel Outfitters
    Outdoor Edge Knives
    Outdoor Specialist Group
    Outdoorsnative.com
    Ozonics Hunting
    PA Federation of Sportsmen’s Clubs
    PA Taxidermist Association, Inc
    Pat Strawser Custom Calls
    Pennsylvania Trappers Assoc.
    Perry’s No Peep Archery Sights
    Pipeline Ridge Hunting Preserve
    Predator Hunting Mounts
    Primal Urge Outdoors
    Primos Hunting Calls
    Proc’s Huntin Buddy
    PSE Archery
    QDMA (PA Chapter)
    Radical Hunter
    Ranew’s Outdoor Equipment
    Red Star Arms
    Reflections Of The Wild
    Revolution Hunting
    Rhino Outdoors
    Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation
    Rougeaux Taxidermy
    Rough Country Outfitters
    Ruger Firearms
    Rydon Corporation
    S & W Outfitter
    Savco LLC
    Sean Mann Outdoors
    SecureIt Tactical
    Shootingthex.com
    SK Knives
    Skull Shine
    Smith and Wesson
    Southern Game Calls
    Southwest Outdoors / Cherry Creek Lodge
    Spook Span
    SportEAR
    Sportsmen of North America TV
    Starkey Hollow Whitetails
    State Line Bone Mine
    Staudt’s Gun Shop
    Stay Ready Inc
    Stokerized Stabilizers
    Strother Archery
    Summit County Outfitters
    Summit Treestands
    Susquehanna River Waterfowlers Assoc
    Table Mountain Outfitters
    Team Overkill
    Team Urban Nocks
    Ten Point Crossbows
    The Bear Whisperer
    The Outdoor Loop
    The Sportsman’s Shop
    The Warmbag
    ThermaCell
    Thompson Center Arms
    Timberline Outfitters
    TNT Archery
    Tough Country
    Trijicon, Inc
    Triple Mag TV
    Trop Gun Shop
    Turnbull Manufacturing
    U Slide Bow Hunter
    Ultimate Camo
    Umax Outdoors
    Upper Canyon Outfitters
    Wallaston Lake Lodge
    Tex Mex Outdoors
    The Outdoors Channel
    The Warmbag
    Watson Air Lock
    Watt’s Truck Center
    Whitetail Adrenanline
    Whitetail Bosses
    Whitetail Freaks
    Whitetail Heaven Outdoors
    Whitewolfsurvivalsupply.com
    Wilburn Outdoors / Millennium Tree Stands
    Wildlife Studios Premiere Taxidermy
    Wired Outdoors
    Woodcock Limited of Pennsylvania
    X-Stand Treestands
    Zink Calls
    Zook Cabins



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    Abner Druckenmiller – Furtakers TV
    Angie & Scott Denny – THE LIFE at Table Mountain
    Blaine Anthony, The Bear Whisperer
    Bob Folkrod
    Bob Mercier
    Brad Farris – Primos
    Buck Buckannon
    Chris Brackett
    Eddie Salter
    Fred Eichler – Fulldraw Outfitters
    Greg Zipadelli
    Hal Shaffer
    Jamie Gray
    Jay Gregory
    J Paul Jackson – Drakes Migration nation
    Jim and Eva Shockey
    Jimmy Primos – Primos
    Josh Miller – SportDOG
    Kevin Knighton
    Kyle Wieter
    Larry Weishuhn
    Lee & Tiffany Lakosky “The Crush“
    Marc Anthony – Speaker / Pro Hunter
    Mark Night
    Matt Morett
    Max Row
    Michael Lee
    Mike Stroff – Savage Outdoors TV
    Montana Whitetails
    Nicole Jones
    Pat Reeves
    Ralph & Vicki Cianciarulo – Archers Choice
    Sean Mann
    Stan Potts
    Bone Collector
    Tom Dokken
    Trent Cole
    Woody Sullivan

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    Advantage Taxidermy Studio Inc
    American Tactical Imports
    Anything About Guns
    Backwoods Life
    Bloodline With Alex Ruthledge
    Blue Rock Outfitters
    Bowfreakz.com
    Bowhunting.com
    Bowhunter Planet
    Bowhunting Addiction TV
    Broken Arrow Wilderness
    Bowhunters TV
    Chasing Trophy Whitetails
    Citizens for a Responsibly Armed Society
    Crossbow Nation
    Dave’s House of Hair, Harrisburg PA
    Dead Dog Walkin’ TV
    Driven TV
    Drop Zone TV
    Eddie Salter
    Family Traditions TV
    Gene & Barry Wensel
    Haley Heath
    Hank Parker
    Hard Core Hunting TV
    Horton Crossbows
    Hunt Wicked Close TV
    Idaho Center of Emergency Medical Training
    Just Kill’n Time TV
    Keystone Gun Sales
    Mark & Beau Rodgers – Real Deal Outdoors
    Mosquito Creek Outdoors, FL
    NebraskaOutfitter.com
    Needleman & Pisano
    Off Grid Survival
    OrgaPro Ltd.
    Racing To Hunt TV
    Roger Raglin
    Shelly & Tara Seiler – Working for Whitetails TV
    Stanley Scruggs Hunting Products
    Team Bone Thugs
    The Banded Nation TV
    The Best Of The West TV
    The Fowl Life TV
    The Kronik Hunter and staff
    The Pennsylvania Crossbow Federation
    The Resistence TV
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  3. illinibowhunter

    illinibowhunter Die Hard Bowhunter

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    That is a significant amount of people!
     
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    cls74 Legendary Woodsman

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    Don't see this one on the list. Just received an email from them, they are the only ones of the ones I emailed to respond

    Wild Evolution will be boycotting the Sportsman Show in support of the 2nd amendment.
     
  5. cmonsta

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    Goodness this stinks. I mean Im so glad so many have stood up for whats right and all, just hate to know how much money is going to be lost by the wrong people.
     
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    One of the smarter statements.
     
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    Hopefully folks that were going there for a reason to buy something are smart enough to go to the companies websites and still make a purchase.

    As for the Outfitters/Guides, you can still talk to them and book your hunt, probably get more quality info from them on the phone, I mean with the nuts to butts crowd at the Show how much "time" can someone put forth??

    Imagine how much money actually is at stake for some to lose if these nut jobs get their way....
     
  8. davidmil

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    And Reed has still not made a comment. I guess they got what they wanted... booth fees paid up front and don't really give a crap about the feelings of those who have made this event such a spectacular event in the past. They got their money this year... but if they don't do something.... we the people... will make sure they don't get it next year. Their gravy train will come to an end. Maybe "WE the People" should organize the show for us. Cut out the Limey do gooders and have us an American/sportsman/hunter event. Reed does nothing to help us or further our believes for 51 weeks of the year. What gives them the right to take this one week where we look forward to and make a political statement that is against every thing we believe in. WE the people can change this. If Reed wants to come along... they better do it soon... because we have the power. They're feeling the heat... and won't comment. They have their money this year.... but if they don't reconsider.... the show is dead...and then some enterprising individual or company will pick up the slack and we will be back. Your decision Reed.

    I'm thinking Justin is the man with the drive and innovation to pull off such a venture. I for one would be willing to provide funds and assets to make such a thing come true. I'm to old to do the work... but I'd support those willing to give it a shot. Hell, we all know Justin could do it better anyway. He'd never screw us in the back
     
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    If I had to guess I'd say vendor booth fees are only a quater of there profit.

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    And how do you come up with that figure? Do you have experience in the field or is this a SWAG.
     
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    Straight SWAG

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  12. muzzyman88

    muzzyman88 Die Hard Bowhunter

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    It was my understanding that booths at the show ran from $400-$10K. If that is the case, then I'd think its safe to assume that a large part of the profit comes from booth space.
     
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    Last year a 10' x 10' booth was just over $2000 but then they hit you with hidden costs like electric, parking, extra passes. I did not check this year because when we were deciding I knew I could not swing the 2 weeks away it would take.
     
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    Large portion of the vendor money goes to pay for the venue. Foot traffic is all profit.

    I work with a guy putting on a motorcycle show this weekend. He had to put up his money to get the venue and was really nervous until he filled the slots for the venue to recoup his initial investment.

    I would ask him more about it but he isn't here today. Might be getting ready for show.

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    That sounds pretty realistic so it will be up to the public to hurt Reed for this decision. I have heard there is anywhere from 400,000 to 700,000 people that go to this show, and at $14 bucks a pop that would be a loss of 5.6 to 9.8 million and that doesnt count all of the parking and concessions.
     
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    Vendors Pulled Out (307)
    Many Not Yet Found / Added



    2 Million Bullets
    24/7 Hunting TV
    AAA Alsakan Outfitter
    Absaroke-Beartooth Outfitters
    Alaska’s Ravencroft Lodge
    Alaskan Outdoors TV
    Ambush Firearms
    American Tactical
    American Whitetails of PA
    Antler Insanity
    Apex Tactical
    Appalachian Big Game TV
    Archery Tag
    Arrowhead Outdoors
    Artistic Visions Wildlife Studio
    Athens Archery
    Atlantic Tactical
    Atsko, Inc. / Sno-Seal Inc.
    Avian X Decoys
    Backwoods Whitetails Outfitters
    Bad Boy Inc.
    Bad Dog Accessories
    Banded Calls
    Bangin Redhedz Turkey Gear
    Bear Archery
    Beavertail Products
    Benelli Firearms
    Big Game Butter
    Blackwater Hunting Services
    Blitz TV
    Bob Shank Photography
    Body Guard 360
    Bohning Archery
    Boulder Basin Outfitters
    Boondock Outdoors
    Border Bucks Outfitters
    Bow Hunter’s Den
    Bowhunting.com
    Bow Life, LLC
    Bramco / Golden Valley Enterprises
    Briley Outfitters
    Buck Bomb
    Bullseye Outfitters
    Burt Coyote Lumenok
    C&D Outfitters
    Cabela’s
    Cabinet Mountain Outfitters
    Camo Addiction
    Campbell Cameras
    CanCooker
    Central Penn Sporting Clays & Game Preserve
    Chaparral Hunting Adventures
    CMO Scents
    Cochrane River Outfitters
    Cody Turkey Calls
    Cold Steel Knives
    Combative Edge
    Comre Safaris
    Comcast
    Con Yeager Spice Company
    Continental Divide Outfitters
    Cove Creek Outfitters
    Crimson Trace
    Cross Canyon Arms
    Cutting Edge Bullets
    D.A. Bow Shop, LLC
    Darkwoods Blind
    DCVR
    Dan Christ Gallery / Artist
    Dead Ringer
    Deer and Deer Hunting.com
    Deerassic Park Education Center
    Direct Action Tactical Firearms
    Dirty Buck Soap and Scents
    Dirty Dog Outdoors
    Domari Nolo Defense Consulting
    Dominance is Everything Hunting System
    Dominator 365
    Dokken Oakridge Kennels
    Down N Dirty Outdoors
    Drakes Migration Nation
    Driven TV
    Droptine Outfitters
    DuckWater Boats
    Dunn Knives
    Dusk to Dawn Bowfishing
    Eastern Chapter Wild Sheep Foundation
    Eastern Outdoors
    Easton Bow Hunting
    Excalibur Crossbow US, Inc
    Extreme Whitetails and Exotics
    EZ Cut Pruners
    Farmland Trophies Outfitting
    Fear No Evil
    Field Proven Calls
    Firearms Industry Consulting Group
    Firenock
    First African Outfitter / Hartzview Hunting Safaris
    Fish Outdoor Properties
    Flatline Productions
    Flyway Customs
    Foiles Migrators, Inc
    Food Plots By Design
    Forbes Turkey Calls
    FOXPRO High Performance Game Calls
    Franchi
    Freds Waterfowl Adventures
    Full Circle Outdoors
    Furtakers TV
    Game Keeper Cooler
    GhillieSuits.com
    Ghost River Outfitters – Alberta
    Gobbler Getter Turkey Calls
    Goey Hunting Calls
    Gone Wild Outdoors
    Goodling Rifles
    Grand-Safari.com – South Africa/Tanzania/Cameroon
    Grow The Bone Deer Attractant
    GunBroker.com
    Gut N Tag, LLC
    Hart Rifles
    H.S. Specialities
    Heartland Whitetails
    Herd Guard
    Hevi-Shot
    High Lonesome Outfitters
    HookHunt
    Hoyt Archery Inc
    Honey Creek Outfitters
    Hungry Wolf Guides
    Hunter Calls
    Hunter Safety Systems
    Hunter Specialties w/ Rick White
    Hunters and Guides Connection
    Hunters Comfort, LLC
    Hunter’s Specialties
    Huntin’ Is Good! TV
    Hunting Network, LLC
    IceHole Coolers
    Indian Creek Lodge Outfitters
    Interlocs
    International Bowhunting Organization
    Iron Kin Hunt Club
    IScope
    J & M Traditions
    Katahdin’s Shadow Outfitters
    Keystone Country Store
    Keystone Elk Country Alliance
    King of the Mountain Inc.
    Kinsey’s Outdoors
    Kodabow
    Lac Suzie Outfitter
    Lancaster Archery Supply
    Lanco Tactical
    Leupold & Stevens Inc.
    LHR Sporting Arms
    Livin’ Country USA
    Lone Oak Retreivers
    Major League Bowhunter
    Masterpiece Outdoors, Inc.
    Men in Treestands Productions
    Midwest Bucks
    Midwest Finest Whitetails
    Midwest Whitetail Adventures
    Mindful of Nature LLC
    Mineral Mizer
    Molt Gear
    Moon Shine Attitude Attire
    Montana Mountain West Outfitters
    Montana Whitetails
    Mountain Dog Chews
    Mountain Hollow Game Calls
    MN Outdoors
    Muddy Outdoors
    Muskie Moose, LLC
    www.MyNortheastOutdoors.com
    NasHunt Outdoors
    National Wild Turkey Federation
    Nature Blinds, LLC
    NasHunt Outdoors
    National Rifle Association
    National Skeet Shooting Association
    Nine Bar Ranch
    Northern Hideaway Outfitters
    Northern Outdoor Lodge
    Northern Wilderness Outfitters
    North Mountain Pepper Works
    Ocean Side Country Lodge
    O.F. Mossberg & Sons, Inc.
    Old Goat Outdoors
    Open Season TV
    Outdoor Channel Outfitters
    Outdoor Edge Knives
    Outdoor Specialist Group
    Outdoorsnative.com
    Ozonics Hunting
    PA Federation of Sportsmen’s Clubs
    PA Taxidermist Association, Inc
    Pat Strawser Custom Calls
    Pennsylvania Trappers Assoc.
    Pennsylvania Whitetail Pursuit
    Perry’s No Peep Archery Sights
    Pipeline Ridge Hunting Preserve
    Port Lions Lodge
    Predator Hunting Mounts
    Predator Nation TV
    Primal Urge Outdoors
    Primos Hunting Calls
    Proc’s Huntin Buddy
    PSE Archery
    QDMA (PA Chapter)
    R.W. Hart & Son, Inc.
    Radical Hunter
    Ramcat Broadheads
    Ranew’s Outdoor Equipment
    Red Star Arms
    Reflections Of The Wild
    Revolution Hunting
    Rhino Outdoors
    Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation
    Rougeaux Taxidermy
    Rough Country Outfitters
    Ruffed Grouse Society
    Ruger Firearms
    Rydon Corporation
    S & W Outfitter
    Savco LLC
    Savage Arms
    Sean Mann Outdoors
    SecureIt Tactical
    Shootingthex.com
    SK Knives
    Skull Shine
    SKW Firearms
    Smith and Wesson
    Southern Game Calls
    Southfork Mountain Lodge, Buffalo WY
    Southland Outfitters
    Southwest Outdoors / Cherry Creek Lodge
    Spook Span
    SportEAR
    Sportsmans Liquidators
    Sportsmen of North America TV
    Starkey Hollow Whitetails
    State Line Bone Mine
    Staudt’s Gun Shop
    Stay Ready Inc
    Stoeger
    Stokerized Stabilizers
    Strong Case
    Strother Archery
    Summit County Outfitters
    Summit Treestands
    Sunflower Camo
    Susquehanna River Waterfowlers Assoc
    Sweetwater Creek Bowhunting
    Table Mountain Outfitters
    Tall Pines Bow Company
    Tarjac
    Team Overkill
    Team UPO
    Team Urban Nocks
    Ten Point Crossbows
    Tex Mex Outdoors
    The Outdoors Channel
    The Warmbag
    The Archery Shop
    The Bear Whisperer
    The Outdoor Loop
    The Sportsman’s Shop
    The Warmbag
    ThermaCell
    Thompson Center Arms
    Timberline Outfitters
    TNT Archery
    Tough Country
    Trijicon, Inc
    Triple Mag TV
    Trop Gun Shop
    Trophy Ridge Outfitters
    Turnbull Manufacturing
    U Slide Bow Hunter
    Ultimate Camo
    Umax Outdoors
    Unified Sportsmen of PA
    Upper Canyon Outfitters
    Wallaston Lake Lodge
    Watson Air Lock
    Watt’s Truck Center
    Weavers Archery
    Wessners Taxidermy
    West Slope Outfitters
    Whitetail Adrenanline
    Whitetail Bosses
    Whitetail Freaks
    Whitetail Heaven Outdoors
    Whitetail Journey
    Witetail Outdoors
    Whitewolfsurvivalsupply.com
    Wilburn Outdoors / Millennium Tree Stands
    Wild Evolution
    Wildlife Studios Premiere Taxidermy
    Wired Outdoors
    Wolfpack Lodge
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    This guy also talked about how the venue charged for electric and even charged for having an electricion on staff. They provided all workers but he pays for it. Those charges are passed on to the vendors.

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    The show has now been postponed.
     
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