To protect my family and friends from a lot of really nasty criminals out there, and maybe just maybe if things keep going the way it been from an unjust government that doesn't respect our lives, liberty or freedom ...The same way this same government didn't respect Rosa Parks civil liberties .You may not need or want any arms that's your choice and I am happy you can make it. but don't tell me because of your choice my rights should be infringed. Serfdom isn't in my future buddy, Rosa Parks wasn't the end of injustice.
Why do you need amything that carries more than one round? It only takes one to kill someone. Being a supporter of the 2nd ammendment doesn't mean you pick which parts you agree with and not the rest. A magazine restriction will effect everyone regardless if they own an ar or not. As trial already said in NY they restricted it to 7 rounds, that covers basically every firearm that accepts a magazine. I would tell you to do some research and look at the new laws of NY and what they tried to pass here in Illinois and are still and see if you have any use for some of those firearms that would be illegal to own. Now to get back on topic, has there been anything mentioned if this show is even going to happen. Seems like everyone is pulling out.
There are two magazines laying by your self defense weapon of choice. A 7 round mag and a 30 round mag. A riot takes place and 10 gang bangers bust into your house to cause murder, rape and robbery. Which mag are you reaching for ?? What you and others think really doesn't concern me when it comes to my self protect and that of my family. When you demand stupid laws that do not stop crime or the criminals that won't obey them... it concerns me. I want all choices at my disposal to defend myself and my family. Damn you or anyone else to limit them !!!!! Last I checked... criminals were enemies to us and our nation. Just say'n. Tim
I think the show will go on. I believe there are around 1,400 exhibitors. Theer will be a lot of empty space. I think attendance is going to take a big hit.
I think you're right Dean, the show will go on. At this point I think about 20% of their exhibitors have pulled out, and all celebrities that I know of have cancelled appearances. Attendance will surely suffer as well, which just further hurts the people who are going to exhibit. I have a feeling this could be the end of the ESOS being "the" show to go to. If there's another exhibitor on the East Coast with any brains, they're start planning a new show to fill the void this one is going ot be leaving.
It's a lose lose situation for everyone involved, and for what? Political correctness? We all know the term "don't bit the hand that feeds you" Well ESOS did exactly that, and in doing so, they cause the problem, and if they fail I will be glad. They deserve to. If I were one of those exhibitors that feel they cannot afford to drop out, I would have a sign at my booth that affirmed my stand and that I did not stand with the ESOS on this issue. I'm pretty sure there are not too many hunters that would book a trip w. an outfitter that supported the ESOS's stance.
List of vendors still attending the ESOS. Important to consider: Good morning everyone. We have had numerous requests for companies that are still listed to be vendors or exhibitors at the Eastern Sports and Outdoors Show. First of all I would like to point out that we are still receiving emails from people that are vendors who are just finding out about the boycott and all of the recent happenings at the show. We do not think it is a good idea, nor very professional of any of us to jump to conclusions and begin berating and boycotting companies, vendors, or manufacturers. exclamation Secondly, this show is sometimes all anyone has to make a final stand between personal or business financial ruin and being able to pay their bills for another six months and survive the winter or until they can start working again in the sports industry. We must realize that a small company or personal vendor that puts out $2500 – $10,000 for space at the show has in some cases thrown all they have into the show, or in some cases may have even taken out loans to attend the show. We cannot in some cases blame or chastise them for sticking it out in hopes of making it, or at least covering their expenses. What we really should be doing, is looking for an avenue in which these vendors, all of them both large and small, would be refunded their money for spots they have paid for at the show. If you wish to continue to notify vendors and companies of whats going on here, that is great and we appreciate the help, but as for now, lets hold of on boycotting any vendors and businesses. None of them have outright come out and said they don’t care about our second amendment rights, and that is why we started this boycott to begin with. We also can in now way verify any listing at this time as vendors and supporters lists have been altered and changed several times since this all took place. The only way we have of pre approving vendors for the Virtual Sports Show now is proof or receipt of purchase from the show. Therefore we cannot publish any listing of vendors or supporters remaining at the show. Thanks for your understanding, patience and cooperation. Tom McConnell (MyNEOD.com)
Justin, an important consideration is while about 200 have withdrawn, about 20% total....and almost all the speakers and personality's have withdraw also. Keep in mind that not all the vendors are outdoor related so while 20% of the total seems like not a lot....its a much greater percentage of the outdoor related industry. People should be proud of the way the industry helped and continues to help standing up for our rights.
Towne Marine Hey everyone, talk about making a hole in displays… How about 6,500 Sq Ft of hole ! We received this from Towne Marine via email a short time ago ! “Due to recent ban on weapons by Reed Exhibitions at the Eastern Sports & Outdoor Shows, Towne Marine will be withdrawing their 30 boat display at this years show. We are saddened we will not be attending our largest and best producing show all year but we stand elbow-to-elbow with our sportsman and refuse to do business with hypocritical gun activists. Thank you for your business and we encourage you to come see us at the Philly Sportsman Show Feb 14 – Feb 17. We support you the people!!!” Please click on their logo to go to their Face Book page and thank them for supporting us !
I guess I really didn't know how big this show is, having never been to this or any really big show I jus looked at the list and figured that to be a good majority of the exhibitors. Either way as justin said I wouldn't think this place would rebound from a hit like that, which is kinds bad for the people that I would imagine count on this to start the year off strong or perhaps this is what makes the year for them.
First of all, nobody asked about your business experience and it certainly has no relevance. I'm glad to hear that you are doing what it takes to make and living and provide for your family and congratulations on 2 of 3 successful businesses. If you could, please make a valid point in regards to how the show being boycotted keeps your wife and son safer (because that right certainly wouldn't be taken away if the show was happening) and secondly how is that more important than the 100 of families (literally) that are going to be affected by this? Are you one of the guys that will simply turn in your pistol out of the night stand when they tell you to? Or are you going to make them pry it out of your dead fingers? Let's not forget that YOU choose to live where you do, it's not anyone else's fault that New York sucks at life when it comes to defending yourself. You certainly have the option to move. This is the worst economy since the great depression, for you to say: . That's one of the most selfish things I've ever seen anyone write... These people WILL lose and let's not forget they run businesses where firearms are used everyday, you are going to tell me that they don't support your second amendment? Seriously? On that note, I have a Ruger LCP that holds 7 rounds... wanna trade? :D
Then maybe I should talk about my 3 businesses, or my family's 9 (soon to be more) grocery stores that employ over 800 people. Would that then give my opinion more weight than yours? Apparently you think that just because you own businesses your opinion is more right and others. Sorry, I won't be a **** and boycott those that do care about our second amendment, yet can't afford to drop out of the show.
1. I agree with post #69 entirely. 2. The grand majority of the people I'm referring to have already pulled out of the show and it will be a very difficult road. If there is no way to recoop their losses, they'll have to no way to live, let alone actively support the 2nd. 3. That is definitely your choice, I respect that. But because you want to stay and fight among friends, boycotting the show (which I totally understand), people will be affected. That's all I'm saying.
I heard it put real simple the other day... What does the enemy (bad guys / criminals) have? Thats what i want! (In order to best defend myself) And when they come out with something better, well quite frankly i'll want that too.
Dan your conveniently missing the fact that I have been applauding the business that dropped out and talking about boycotting the "SHOW" I haven't made reference to business that are remaining unless they have specifically came out and agreed with the Reed decision. In Fact I have posted to the total opposite see post #69. Also lets not forget many of which have no practical affiliation with anything to do outdoors or second amendment are there because its a large gathering of people and they can make money period and no one blames them for that. However that doesn't mean we have to support the show, Reed and their foreign interests or the main sponsors of the show that Reed decision was catering to in the first place.....Progressive an Comcast.
