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Duhhhhhhhhhhh.... I think I'll take a trip to Iran

Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by davidmil, Dec 9, 2011.

  1. davidmil

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    So it seems that every year we have a couple of these idiots. The latest that is supposedly a "Retired FBI agent". He's now being held hostage and sent a plea to his family to help him get released. You retired, your family is here.... what in the hell are you doing on a walk about in Iran? I don't care what you were doing.... stay there. If you're a spy... well you got caught. If you're an idiot... well we don't need any more of them here.
     
  2. virginiashadow

    virginiashadow Legendary Woodsman

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    Agreed, it is like walking around Grizzly country smeared in salmon juice....dumb as heck.
     
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    I feel bad for the dude.. I truly do..

    But at the same time I know this is just another ploy by the Zionist state of Israel (as well as the extreme right Christians) to bring American's over to do the dirty work yet again.

    I find it humorous when all craziness breaks out over Iran possibly being able to build 1 nuc.. and Israel has like 300.

    Until Israel stops its ethnic cleansing of an entire race of people I will never back them.

    So keep painting Iranians as the next bad guy American media.. you won't get no sympathy or ratings from me.
     
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    virginiashadow Legendary Woodsman

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    Duke, from reading your stuff over the years, I feel like I agree with you on a lot of things. However, I support Israel against those bastards over there in the middle east. The reason they have "300" Nukes is because many of the countries that surround them and are in the same region as them want to annihilate them. So they talk the talk, and walk the walk to survive each day. When they make a promise like, "If you attack us and we find out who you are, we are coming in and bombing you wherever we find you...if your family is with you so be it". Hey man, you gotta respect that mindset. They warn you and when you do something, they do exactly what they said they were going to do. And I am anything but a hard core right wing Christian.
     
  5. dukemichaels

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    Brett.. buddy.. I love you but I want you to better inform yourself on what's really happening in the mid-east.

    The zionists of Israel have been ethnically cleansing Palestinian Muslims and Palestinian Christians for nearly 70 years.. just shooting them.. destroying their homes.. eliminating them from the earth.. and occupying the ones who stay by building 25 foot tall walls surrounding their homes.. and all paid for by your tax dollar too.

    You don't hear these things from the American media very often.. but they exist.. there are even hundreds of anti-zionist organizations lead by jewish Americans who are trying to stop the madness going on there.

    Our politicians can't stop it because they fear they can't get elected without the zionist jewish community that lives in this country... they still have a HUGE hand in American politics.

    But please.. don't take my word for it.. do your research.. I am certain you will see the truth.. it can't be denied if you look for it.

    The Islamic countries of the mideast hate Israel because of all this... and they hate America because we continually look the other way.. even vetoing Palestinians right to live every year at the UN meetings.. which according to Geneva convention rules.. Israel is breaking all laws established after WWII.

    Look up the news from Australia.. from England.. Europe.. Brazil.. learn the truth from them.

    Iranians are not the bad guys.. at least not yet.
     
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    This is 100% BS ..... put the kool aid down, Mike .... wow
     
  7. dukemichaels

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    Ahh.. yes.. an unbiased opinion speaks.
     
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    Tony Legendary Woodsman

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    And your opinion, because it differs from the norm, isn't?
     
  9. dukemichaels

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    It took 1 second to find this group.. they are made up and started by Jewish Americans to stop the atrocities of their own people.

    http://www.endtheoccupation.org/

    But you're right Tony.. clearly they are making this up.. and the UN injustices being vetoed are just historical heresay.. etc etc etc

    You need to put down the "kool aid" and enlighten yourself my friend.

    But don't take my word for it.. dive into the subject and investigate yourself.. that's all I ask.
     
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    You lost me when you said Israeli Zionists play a HUGE hand in American politics.

    Gotta love conspiracy theorists though, cause logic be damned, they can't technically be proven wrong.

    Iran is most certainly the "bad guys", regardless of my mutual hate for American media I can't overlook that.
     
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    WOW.... now there's a different slant on the world. I'm afraid you're really in the minority with that line of thinking. I'm amazed at your reasoning. I don't need to do research..... it's been played out in real life since I was born in 1944. I bet you think Hitler was good too.
     
  12. dukemichaels

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    Your age always shows in your posts young man (but thats no slant.. I wish I still was that way).

    Tell me why Iran is the bad guy?

    Tell me why the truth is a conspiracy?

    Tell me.. I'm listening.
     
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    This post doesn't even make sense. How can I respond?

    If you don't do the research you are naive.

    Don't matter to me much.
     
  14. dukemichaels

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    Just 30 seconds.. that's all this took.

    These are mostly American-Jewish run organizations trying to right the wrong of their people.. you think they're making it up?

    You are naive if you believe only one side of a fight.. any fight.. do the research.

    http://www.breakingthesilence.org.il/about/organization

    http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/UN/usvetoes.html

    http://topics.nytimes.com/topics/re...anizations/p/palestinian_authority/index.html

    http://www.vtjp.org/background/Separation_Wall_Report.htm

    http://ifamericansknew.org/stats/cost_of_israel.html

    Again.. I don't want you to believe me.. that would be like you (yourself) quoting the hearsay you already believe.

    Do the research yourself gents.. it's very easy to do.

    If you don't want to do it fine.. but then you shouldn't be in a conversation you know nothing about and you certainly shouldn't be slamming someone who does.
     
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    Again I don't care enough to argue here. It just seems that your opinion would be of a grad school student, not mine.

    I'm not saying Israel or Iran either one are good. I wish we would leave that entire area of the world alone to implode on itself with the corruption. I'm tired of my friends and money going to fight for people that won't fight for themselves or appreciate that we are there for them. Eliminating 99% of our foreign programs would be A ok in my book.

    What I am saying is that it is foolish to say Israeli zionists play a major role in American politics. There are no "facts" proving this, just as there are no "facts" disproving it. That's the beauty of conspiracy theories, you can't disprove them.

    I think France secretly infiltrated Israeli leadership and actually are controlling the government there. Prove me wrong......see how that works?
     
  16. dukemichaels

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    Really.. did you try to look it up first. Did you even read any of what I posted.

    Israel.. a country the size of New Jersey receives more foreign aid than all the other countries of the world combined.. your smart enough to put 2 and 2 together... they most certainly play a role in American politics.

    Hey.. I can lead a horse to water.. but I can't make one drink.

    Eisenhower eluded to much of this in his presidency..

    But since its late on a Saturday night and I also really don't care to argue anymore on this subject..

    It took1 minute. (although these arent the best examples.. particularly wikipedia).

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionist_Organization_of_America

    http://www.stormfront.org/jewish/whorules.html

    http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v02/v02p181_Lilienthal.html

    And.. I understand your an intelligent young man Trevor.. but your studies are pharmaceutical.. mine are historical and political.. and I've been at it a LONG time.

    The ending of WWI and WWII are among my favorite.

    And France does play a role in mid eastern politics.. so does Britain.. they both have since the breakup of the Ottoman empire after WWI.. and are both a HUGE blame for most of this mess those countries are in.. but that is a whole different discussion and I have spent way to much time online tonight.

    I'm out.. peace my brothers.

    I don't ask you believe.. I ask you seek the truth of whats going on for yourself. Countless of American-Jewish Organizations exist trying to fight their own people.. fighting to stop Israel's occupation of Palestine. I actually just read recently in a BBC column I think it was.. that many feel the ZOA is at the end of its reign simply because they stopped fooling many of their own people. We'll wait and see though... they have a lot of money.

    Also recently read an article in Newsweek.. not the crappy U.S. version.. that Israel/Britain elites are buying Iraqi oil fields.. how convenient... especially since Americans did all the heavy lifting.

    As Wilson once said "we won the war but lost the peace".

    We (as a country) always lose the peace.
     
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    I agree with the point of the thread.

    If this guy was CIA, he knew the risk he was taking.

    If he's not CIA, he knew the risk he was taking.
     
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    How do you say....:busted:
     
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    I hear Iran is nice this of time year.
     
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    [video]http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/iran-so-far/169811/[/video]
     

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