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  1. Sota

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    I believe part of what got Jesse elected was that there was a measure on the ballot to amend the state constiution to make hunting and fishing a right in the state of Minnesota. This motivated a certain demographic to one get out and vote, and that demographic was prone to voting for Jesse. Pretty much the same demographic that got Trump elected.
     
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    None of us know for certain what we would do in an entirely different environment. We only know what we are today because of our life experiences to this point. But, if that was all changed at an early age, there is no way to know who or what we might be.

    That being said, in no way do I defend Trump or his actions. He has plenty of skeletons in his closet. He is a juvenile on twitter and its embarrassing to the conservative ideals. We could do much better, but we certainly could have done much, much worse. The establishment is so far broken, that it sickens me. Politics as a profession is corruption at is most basic form. There are plenty of good, successful and inspired people in this country that were born to lead. But, they lead fortune 500 companies, churches, schools, platoons, etc., because they don't care to swim in the muddy waters of Washington. That's the real tragedy of our current political climate.
     
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    I know for certain:)
     
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    Me too, give me like $12bln and I'll prove it.
     
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    So, you know for certain that if you were born to a crack-ho in the inner city and had no father, you would now be raising a family and camping your summers away in Michigan? That's impressive.

    Extreme wealth and power do crazy things to even the best intentioned. But, you might be an outlier.
     
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    Immaculate conception?
     
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    Well, we are talking about Germ. He seems to be omnipotent.

    Have you heard about his dealings with the river people?
     
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    The premise was that if I was born into to money I would not be an ass-clown like trump, no need to bring crack ho's down to Trumps level;)
     
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    They got tossed out, I miss them.
     
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    Germ what if you were raised in NYC and New Jersey do you think that would change the way you deal with people?
     
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    2.2 million jobs gained since the election, vs record number of people on food stamps. I don't care what is said on twitter or who is pissed off or who has hurt feelings.
     
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    That depends on who I surrendered myself with, I learned a long time ago on my own about having friends of good character.

    If I still have the standard of having friends of good character, then I like my chances. Do I still get to have my Grandfathers in my life?

    Would it matter if how I turned out if I had a father who was a compulsive gambler? Who slept with hookers in front of me at age 11? Would not get dinner on nights he lost his entire paycheck at the track? Gambled my college fund on the ponies?

    Could I still take my family camping in Michigan? I am a very flawed man, but I don't make excuses for people or myself when I make mistakes and I have made plenty of them. I just keep moving forward.
     
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    What policy has changed? I'll wait.......................
     
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    So does Trump, he just keeps moving forward.
     
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    How about a lack of policies put forward that hindered progress and growth, will that suffice?
     
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    The stock market fluctuates based on a hurricane forecast, obviously a pro business president can have the same influence.
     
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    Again what has changed? What policy's are gone? Coal mining policy changed is one I know what else? Again I'll wait..................
     
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    Tripled under Obama, and he was anti-business correct? FYI I could not name you one policy he passed to help the market either. I could tell you one in 1999 passed by Clinton and GOP that helped crash it.
     
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    I explained what changed the adminsitratation that did hinder growth and was anti large business was no longer in office that spurred the growth and investment. Talk of getting rid of NAFTA and productive talks with China while not policy has an effect on business investment and growth.
     
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    So just talk has changed then, well that gives me a warm fuzzy. Any explanation on how the market tripled under anti growth administration?
     

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