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drop away vs biscuit

Discussion in 'Whitetail Deer Hunting' started by Tinman46, Aug 16, 2013.

  1. buttonbuckmaster

    buttonbuckmaster Grizzled Veteran

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    I've used a WB for at least 10 years. I don't see me changing rests anytime soon. Simple, cheap, effective.
     
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    Xsoldier416 Weekend Warrior

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    I use the Trophy Ridge Revolution and it works really well. The arrow is completely contained and there is no room for the arrow to move around. They also put a little felt on the arms and that makes it even quieter. The only problem I had with it was when I forgot to tighten the screws and they got loose enough to move the rest. Once I retightened and got the string tight, I haven't had a single problem.
     
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    I shoot the WB yet and have no plans to switch back to a fall away anytime soon.
     
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    I used a whisker biuscut and change after a year to a NAP apache then it broke or i broke it idk but i personally like my new QAD ultra rest hunter.
     
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    QAD HDX for me!
     
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    I have found that a WB will also do a number on the NAP Qwickfletch. Not that that is the best fletching in the world by any means, but if you shoot with them, i would go drop away.
     
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    Trophy taker to Biscuit. I just like it to work so I keep it simple.
     
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    I,ll stick with the wb I,ve never had any problems with the 2" blazer vains . Im only shooting 30 to 40 yds the wb never fails the only downside is it can make noise on drawback if it is calm out with no wind
     
  9. WV Hunter

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    I used to use drop away's for years, and they are obviously good. I switched to a WB about 4-5yrs ago just to try it out. Its still on my bow, love it. Simple, solid, accurate, and no worries.

    There is alot of inaccurate info out there (and even in this thread) about WB's. If the bow and rest are set up "correctly", a WB will not ruin your vanes at all. In fact, it won't even leave a mark. Anyone that has had issues - it ain't the rest, its your setup. My son and I use a number of short vanes (blazers, fusions, etc) and they all look perfect, all the time. They also don't cause 5-10 fps loss... more like 2-3 if they are set up correctly.

    Great thing about this sport...lots of options. Use what you like, but don't bash others for using something different.
     
  10. Slider46

    Slider46 Die Hard Bowhunter

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    I can say with 100% certainty that the original WB i had on my older bow was setup correctly. Perfectly even. It did however, deform 4-inch vanes and also left black marks on the vanes. With that said, that was an original WB (from the early 2000's) and they've probably improved the newer versions to reduce or eliminate that problem.

    There are still plenty of old WB rests out there and in use though so to make such a broad statement that the only way a WB affects fletching is due to incorrect installation, is not an accurate statement in my opinion.
     
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    The QAD ultrarest HDX is the best


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  12. OneBigDude

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    I use a whisker biscuit. I thought about switching to a drop away this year, but couldn't find anything that made me think that a drop away was superior. Field and Stream did a write up about testing a wb vs. drop away. Four people shot on each rest. The avg fps lost was between 3-6 fps. Difference in accuracy of a drop away vs the wb was minuscule. Averaged less than .10" difference at 60 yards. Seems like you are fine either way. With that said, I prefer the 100% reliability of the wb. My 2" blazers get shot off by other arrows before they show any wear from the biscuit. The biggest advantage for the drop away is simpler tuning. Until this year, my whisker biscuit only had windage adjustment and that made me move my nocking point up and down, while tuning. I fixed this by buying a Trophy Ride Kill Shot that has both windage and elevation adjustment.
     
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    Slider, I can agree with you there. I do know that the older models weren't nearly as forgiving as a couple generations later. Another thing is, the entire bow setup is key...along with correctly setting up the rest. Sometimes the rest can be perfect, but their arrows are underspined and flex too much coming through the rest.

    I'll amend my statement... to say - "on the vast majority that have problems, its their setup". And heck, that is with any rest really...it just becomes more evident with a whisker biscuit because of the visible evidence (black marks, torn or worn fletchings, etc.) You don't see visual evidence on your arrows with a drop away. (they just go buy mechanicals to fix poor arrow flight. LOL, just stirring it a little) :evilgrin:


    I know I've helped several folks over the years straighten out their WB's... and once I got everthing correct, they went from being WB haters, to semi-loving them. Like I said earlier, good thing there are lots of options...everyone can be happy :D

    Full disclosure...I used to be a WB hater. My thoughts were - how could it possibly even make sense to shoot through something that could potentially alter arrow flight? It seemed counter intuitive to what we all know about tuning bows. The only reason I ever tried one was because I put one on my sons bow when he was 8 (for ease of use while he was learning). It totally changed my thoughts about the WB, and that is how I ended up using one myself.
     
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    You are right about the tuning. The old models of WB's didn't have nearly what they do today. And if you don't get em just right, it ain't right. Mine are actually the Deluxe models...prob circa 2009? They have several adjustments, and the newer models are even that much better.

    I do remember back in the day (with an older version) a pro archer won a major IBO competition using a WB...just to prove how accurate they could be. Can't remember who it was but it was a big deal back then. Nobody could believe a competition archer would use such a thing. LOL
     
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    I guess all these guys stating the whisker biscuit has no effect on arrow flight path are engineers.... Watch this video and tell me that each launch from a whisker biscuit is repeatable and has no effect on trajectory..........
     
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    jlbmarine Weekend Warrior

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    WB's arent bad at all, but they do have an effect on arrow flight, even if it's small. A drop away lets the arrow fly a path unmolested by parts associated with capture rests... A WB or a dropaway wont make a archer better... skills will. Spoons don't make people fat either......
     
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    Debatable. Although probably not a great place to argue that. I do agree with the statements before that though.
     
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    IMO Im not a fan of the WB, I used it first couple seasons and yeah like they said my fletching always was ripping off, i wasnt as tight in groupings, and then i switched to the trophy taker classic drop away bc one of my buddies i work with gave it to me lol def big difference. I do have a extra one but i highly doubt id ever switch back, only if my drop away broke or something and i didnt have time to get a new one lol Drop Away > WB
     
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    I've heard too many stories about drop aways malfunctioning to hunt with one. I know it is probably a very rare occurrence, but if it happens at the wrong time it can ruin your whole season. When something just has to work no questions ask, simplicity is key.
     
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    The only time I have ever seen WB eat fletchings is when the rest was not installed properly or the bow was not tuned properly. Not trying to pick on you but being very honest. I have shot WB since they were new to the market and have yet to ever have a single fletching ruined. I have had them on at least 6 different bows. I could tell by wear on fletchings if I did not have the set-up right. With a little adjustment, they shoot just as well as a drop away and do zero damage to fletchings. I am old-school and love the simplicity of the rest. There is nothing to fail. On a drop-away, there are several things that can and do go haywire.
     

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