Slightly difficult? Try damn near impossible. Some people think they're stupid because they can't be trained. Fact is, they understand what you want them to do but they just don't see the point in humoring you. As the saying goes, "A Pyr off a leash is a DISAPPYR". If they get out, the only way we can get them back is to drive the car to where they are and open the door. They won't come back no matter how much you call them, but you offer them a car ride and they're all over it. You have no idea. We've spent over $1000 at this point trying to curb Max's barking and he drools like a machine. Oh, and they left out shedding. I should get a spinning wheel and learn to recycle this stuff.
OK boys....work with me here....I am the Alpha MALE... SHE is the Alpha FEMALE..... did I type that slow enough for you? :D
A female can be THE Alpha, Tony, even over males. Happens all the time - even with humans in this day and age. :D (I tried to type as slowly as possible.)
Were we hunt in Colorado, we typically run into a sheep herder and his flock once or twice during the hunt. He's got multiple mixed breed dogs herding and keeping the sheep together, but there are always two Pyrenees with the herd. The other dogs do their job, but will also come over and check us out, explore a little, but those two Pyrenees are all business and you best keep your distance. They lead that flock of sheep like its their own pups. Impressive to watch work.
7 dogs??? Really ??? What happened to quality over quantity? You need to Reduce and get some training on how to handle dogs... Like a few others said, you are loosing your position as the Alfa male in the house. EVERY SINGLE dog need to know that humans are on top and never challenged. That issue that you had yesterday has been brewing a long time... it started well before yesterday! And NO... beating dogs is not the solution!!! Even a 140lbs dog should see himself as a 2 pound puppy and never challenge people, from adults to kids to toddler, they need to know they come after them. That training starts early in their life and continues in everyday actions... Buy dog behavior books, follow dog training classes ASAP, and give away a few dogs... (
We have six, yes six in house! Echo 97 pound chessy, Bones 60 pound platt mix, Doser 50 pound bulldog Dalmatian mix, Ammo 40 pound short hair, Tulip 5 pound pom, Yorkie mix and Lucy 20 pound black lab (still growing) All have fun all have a purpose. Its not easy but its what we do we are very active. We had one issue where I physically had to separate dogs. Take it for what you will, but adding two stressed dogs to our dogs would be hard! Hopefully having the labs go home will help . Sent from my SCH-R530U using Tapatalk
Yes, really. Of course, if you'll read everything I wrote and if you knew anything about me, you'd know that five dogs are ours and the two labs belong to my son who is U. S. Air Force EOD and is currently deployed to the Middle East. No idea what you're referring to here. I have quantity, and they are all quality. I'm perfectly okay with the number of dogs I have. Granted, the two labs need to go away ASAP because they haven't been accepted as part of the pack, but my five will stay. As to getting some training, please educate me, oh enlightened one, on exactly how you know I need training. This was a unique incident, separate and apart from the other instances of fighting. I made a mistake this time. I know that now and I know what I did wrong. Again, read everything I posted. Great Pyrenees DO NOT accept humans as Alpha. (Yes, that's how it's spelled, by the way.) They will accept you as a trusted partner and a protectee, but the moment they think you're not acting in the best interest of the "flock", they'll over-rule you. They're brilliant and loyal, but they're independent and they think for themselves. That's what they've been depended upon to do for the last 5000 years. You CAN NOT train that out of them. Yep, it started the minute we brought two unfamiliar dogs into our pack. Tell me something I don't know. I can't argue with that - especially with Max and Roxy. Try beating one of them and you can bet that the other is going to come to their rescue and you're going to be in a world of trouble. Again, read what I've posted. That's not the way LGDs think or function. As I said, if they think you're putting their flock in danger the will either find a way around you or through you. Agreed. I've done a ton of research and study on this breed and they're pretty well trained. I'd never give away one of my dogs. They're my family. My suggestion to you is to try to read everything that's posted before you jump to conclusions and post said conclusions on the internet. Not doing so tends to make you look foolish. Also, posting assumptive, arrogant statements like you did only makes you look like a jerk.
Correct me if I'm wrong. Lgd's are that a livestock guarding dog they dont attack because of dominance, its out of protection! My chessy stays out during the day for that reason. He keeps watch over many chickens and turkeys. My life long friend plays with him at cook outs goes shed hunting with us no problems. He came over one day alone and echo would not let him in!! Not because he's dominant because his job is to keep things out of my yard. Things were working for LittleChief until the intrusion of two new dogs its not that complicated! Sent from my SCH-R530U using Tapatalk
I have read everything that was written BEFORE answering... If you don't like other people's advise... don't ask for it! I was NOT trying to be a jerk like you said, just trying to help... sorry I don't normally ''sugar coat'' advices, just use simple and direct words...guess you don't like that approach. You have obviously more dogs then you can handle and adding two ''strangers'' made things worse. For correcting my words... so you know I speak 3 languages, and yes I do make the odd mistake, so, excuse my English and I'll excuse your French! Good luck with your dogs!
I have read everything that was written BEFORE answering... If you don't like other people's advise... don't ask for it! I was NOT trying to be a jerk like you said, just trying to help... sorry I don't normally ''sugar coat'' advices, just use simple and direct words...guess you don't like that approach. You have obviously more dogs then you can handle and adding two ''strangers'' made things worse. For correcting my words... so you know I speak 3 languages, and yes I do make the odd mistake, so, excuse my English and I'll excuse your French! Good luck with your dogs!
I don't expect advice to be sugar coated, but your response made me sound like an idiot who has no idea what he's doing. I assure you that's not the case. If that wasn't your intention, then (as the younger generations says) it's all good. I don't, however, have more dogs than I can handle. I have a particular situation that I can't handle and, according to some experienced Pyr owners, can't be handled and only has one solution, which is to get rid of the labs. That is happening tomorrow morning at 6:00 am.
I hope it works out well for you LC. I am glad you at least take pet ownership seriously. We have irresponsible neighbors who let their pack of heelers run loose all over creation and at all hours of the night. I have had animal control out multiple times as well as the police to have them silenced in the middle of the night. I can't tell you how much I detest those dogs, especially when they chase a family member or our horse on our property. I was told by AC to just shoot them but I know that would only make things way worse and honestly the owners are the issue in cases like this. I wish you well in resolving your issue.
