Do you think this action is a legit felony charge?

Yea I was replying to your other post about the cop Iowa Veteran

 

I agree.

 

No question as far as I see it. Yep, he deserves it

 

This is why you never talk to cops.

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Bill Clinton didn't:D

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He sure didn't, and absolute zip happened.

 

How about this scenario. The cop is cruising around and notices a guy washing his car at the car wash and has tinted windows (which is against the law). The cop rolls up and discovers this is the same guy he saw in court and says something like, "wow dude, you just took that tint off your window before court and now had to pay to put it back on again?" The genius says, "no sir, I didn't really take the tint off before court. I just said I did." Cop says, "you mean you lied to the judge? Under oath?" Genius says, "Yep". Sounds feasible to me. Lie under oath you go to jail. Otherwise our judicial system is worthless.

 

Sounds like he is an idiot and lied. Officer has every right to just talk to someone.

Now if he got the tint afterwards after he had it removed that would've been a different story. It seems like the kid signed something stating that he lied which is also stupid.

 

To address some of the questions, I don't think it is ok per se for a person to lie in court about a traffic violation, but absolutely the implications of a cop lying are and should be much worse. We entrust cops to uphold and enforce these laws, they should be held to a higher standard when it comes to them.

As for the charges, any half wit lawyer will get these reduced/dropped. A key point is that he wasn't ticketed in traffic for the tint again. It doesn't matter what you have on a parked car, it's not illegal. It would also be easy to argue that he just hadn't had time to remove it yet.

I certainly won't feel sorry for the guy who admitted to a cop about lying in court.... But he will get out of this.


And I LOLed at Christine's response.

 

Living near Chicago it pains me to see that we waist tax dollars on something like this while killers with illegal guns walk every day. I kid you not that our judicial system here in Chicago has the lowest prosecution rate for violent crime in America, let alone throwing the book at liars over tinted windows.

 

No, he said he removed it, not was planning on removing it.

And about holding cops to higher standards in terms of lying in court, I don't get it Trevor. I thought you said cops and citizens are on equal footing?

Raceway, I hear you man but here is another way to look at the situation. If this guy is convicted of perjury he will never be eligible to be a juror. I, for one, would not want this guy as a juror given his predisposition to lie under oath. Would you?

 

You shouldn't lie period. If you lie in court, your a moron. Your also a moron for then allowing the cop to come onto your property and admitting guilt.

Let the moron get charged with a felony. He deserves it.

 

I kinda see cops being held to a higher standard as far as lieing in court simply because their words hold a lot more weight. If a citizen says I didn't do _____ and the the cop says he did and is lieing or mistaken it can have a massive impact on that citizens life. Where as for the most part a citizen lieing may get him out of trouble or a fine the cop lieing can put an innocent person in jail which to me might be the worst failure of our legal system. The guy in this scenario is an idiot, couldn't he have invoked his right to remain silent(whether he was being arrested or not)? I mean couldn't he simply have said" I have no comment officer have a nice day?"

 

What good is an oath if it's not being upheld?

 

I understand what you are saying buddy, but here is the deal for me. I pretty much think most of you guys/gals on here are good people. That being said, even a lot of the goo people on here are pretty skeptical/apprehensive about what cops do or should be allowed to do. I don't understand why those same people on here who are distrustful of cops don't see the important point of this thread. Telling the truth. The truth. People on here would go on an absolute witch hunt if they found out a cop lied or told the partial truth and got someone convicted. Well then darn it, citizens need to tell the truth under oath as well. They need to man up. The judge would have given him a month or two to get the tint fixed, no problem.

Have I lied to get out of trouble when I was younger.....yes. Did I lie under oath? No. In fact, lying to keep yourself out of trouble isn't even a criminal offense whereas lying under oath is a felony.

 

Don't know about other states but in Florida you cant drive in the lane next to a cop if a cop has someone pulled to the side of the road. So now everyone is franticly changing lanes when they see a cop car ahead. Crazy.

 

I'm in complete agreement if this guy is dumb enough to say he lied to judge in court he shouldn't be let off. And its completly exceptable for officers to stop and talk to anyone. Maybe I missed it in original story but for the same cop to be involved doesn't sit right. What if, and this is just example, the cop was present at court and heard the guy say he had removed it and got off. Then the officer is cruising around sees the guy and notices the tint is still on car. Stops and questions him for that reason and the guy admitts to lying. Is that right, I don't think so. Granted yes window tint is illegal but I still ask should a officer stop at every house, buisness or wherever he encounters a car with tint on it and finds the owner and issues a ticket. Again no I don't believe so and that would be no different them driving around on a Saturday or Sunday morning knocking on doors and if the person that answered was drunk ask if they drove home the night before then arresting them for dui if the answer was yes.

This is what I've been talking about the whole time. Yes the guy was wrong for lying under oath but really a small traffic violation is what people want to stand behind on fixing the judicial system. The old saying "there's bigger fish to fry" comes to mind." And a hell of a lot bigger problems them some punk kid lying about tinted windows.

 

So you don't believe what the officer says but you still believe the turd that's already been caught lying in court?

 

No one said anything about fixing the system by his case. I was using it as an example. And as far as bigger fish to fry.....that same officer has around 10+ felony cases on his upcoming docket. He is frying bigger fish. You dont know what he or anyone else is doing.

 

I would hope that some prosecutorial discretion would be used here. He should face a penalty for lying under oath but a felony seems a bit much.
A felony conviction would affect his rights and opportunities for the rest of his life.