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Do you still support Trump

Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by BJE80, May 17, 2017.

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    Yeah and Santa comes to visit in December.
     
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    Way to skirt the issue, the democrats did not support the agreement initially enough to get a 60% vote in the house and senate when they had a majority in both houses and now they are offended that the agreement they did not support when they had the chance was exited. If that is not political charades nothing is.
     
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    Trump pulling out of the Paris deal was nothing more than pandering to his base. He knows he probably wont serve another term, or even all of this one, so in reality it will be up to the following president anyway to decide if we stay in or leave the Paris agreement. This was a win - win for Trump. He gets to keep a campaign promise and rile up the base while bearing none of the actual responsibility or fallout from this decision.
     
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    When did the dems have control of the house and senate in 2016 exactly?
     
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    Fallout? What exactly does the Paris accords do? Besides take billions from us to give to other nations?


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    And the 1% is doing better than ever, but hey all these new coal jobs will fix it;)

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    This is it and it's why Trump wins, the man is not dumb.

    HBO has Vice new's which is pretty good, they had a great show on why the 9th circuit court is too big and liberal. They had a great piece on Coal plants last night and the people working in them. I encourage all to watch it
     
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    Life experience, research, a brain and free will. I'm every bit as much of an expert climatologist as Bill Nye and....
    I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.:biggrin:
     
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    Well comrade what you just explained as liberalism is communism, except the part about gender inequities ( your party refers to that as a woman's choice to have an abortion) and protecting the environment. (never heard a republican run on the platform of being against protecting the environment)
     
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    Even the global warming scientist say there is really nothing we can do now to stop global warming. Great move Trump.

    Let the other 200 country's do their Paris Accord and America will continue to make electric cars and technology for the other county's to rip off from us later and that's what will improve the environment.


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    It's not the rich man's fault at all, never stated it was. For the last 35 or so years, our economy is set up to do exactly what it's doing. I am not saying it's wrong or right, just what is happening today.

    It's going to run more in their favor once Trump is done.
     
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    The single biggest reason the Wealthy have become more wealthy while the "rest of us" haven't as much is the policies started under Clinton for housing. It resulted in us regular folk putting all of our wealth into our homes. We were not diversified so when the housing crashed, so did our wealth. Where the wealthy on the other hand, were diversified and didn't lose their wealth like we did.

    Our wealth is growing again, we need to not make the same mistake and make sure we have our wealth spread around.
     
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    It started under Reagan who and I quote "Turn the bull loose" in 1985. Again not saying wrong or right, in 1950's we taxed the bloody hell out of the rich and invested that money in roads, schools, and other programs.

    "The Internal Revenue Service reckoned that the effective rate of tax in 1954 for top earners was actually 70 percent" Who wants to pay that, LOL
     
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    Yes and No. Reagan got the economy going making it possible for us to really start building wealth. But it was the policies while Clinton was in office (created bipartisan), primarily created to keep a small recession from happening that got us to pour our wealth predominately into our homes. Bush didn't help any as the collapse started and he tried to keep it from happening.

    Problem I see today is that to many people are again concentrating their wealth in their homes. I'm happy to live in my smaller home under 100K allowing me to put money into other devices. This is also probably why I didn't lose as much as so many others because my low value house didn't drop like all the higher priced properties.
     
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    What other countries have more opportunity for those that want to seek wealth? What other countries have more success stories for those that chase a dream and make a lot of money? Wealth is available to anyone that has an idea and the fortitude to take a risk and work their tail off. Heck, I know guys that have made themselves millionaires by working in labor and just being smart about how they spend and invest. Being poor is not a life sentence. Being poor is often times a choice.

    Spain went broke with a tax rate of 58%. High taxes for social programs simply don't work. It stifles the economy in a multitude of ways. As others have said, you cant tax a country into prosperity. You wont spread wealth with crazy high taxes. It has never worked, and never will. If you want to look at patterns, look at patterns that have never worked, like liberal economics. Why keep beating the dead horse?

    Education is exactly what you put into it. Again, anyone can go and do. Do it. Primary education is free. Go get some. If you want to go to college, pay for it like I did.

    We already have health care for all. We have a private carrier system, and a social system for those in need. (Medicaid). It is illegal in our country to refuse medical treatment. Unfortunately, the social system is abused beyond measure and ACA drove premiums on the private side through the roof. Another failed liberal (socialist) ideal due to no basic understanding of the science of economics.

    Nearly every major city that is in ruins has been under liberal direction for generations. You like studying patterns and science, study the pattern of miserably poor people that continue to vote for the liberal party that has promised them wealth for many generations. Guess who is still poor? The folks that are sitting back and waiting for their party to hand them the goods.
     
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    LOL, we have the same thought, my house 90,000 and I won't get a bigger one.
     
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    Yes and no here also, right, I mean few southern states under GOP control that suck, some of the richest states today are under Democratic control.

    The key IMO is swing to far one side, you're doomed, there is a balance, but we have seemed to have lost it. Liberalism did not ruin Detroit, greed did.
     
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    I know I am late to the convo but holy cattle, someone with a great idea :Gasp: You mean if I put in hard work, I will get rewarded? Not Fair! I love this country but holy crap are we lame these days...
     
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    I like what Trump is doing, if for no other reason than because it is different.

    As far as health care - I would like to adopt Wolf Care. Lets model our system after Wolves. They take care of the young, the old, and the sick. What happens to the lazy? They don't last very long... That is all we need. To come together as a "pack" and take care of the ones that need it. The strong defend the group and provide for the pack, the females nurse the young, and the old teach and guide the growing pups. The leaders lead and watch out for the whole group. There is no more efficient way. Wolves have it figured out man :)

    That being said I would love to put a 185 gr chunk of metal into one :)
     
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    Not to be confused with thinking I want all female people to just raise kids - just outlining that all members of the pack have a supporting role.
     

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