Do you believe in Dog shock collars?

I see no problem with shock collars. I never had to resort to one to train my dog, but I would have if warranted.

The only thing nearly as bad as people who don't respect their dogs are the people who revere them as people. They are still an animal. I'd rather not get caught on either extreme.

 

You're right, dogs are way better than people, we are really lucky that they share their world with us.

Did you ever wonder how much training it takes for one of those little small dogs to train a fat woman to carry them around in those handbags, then drive them to salons to get their hair done and pick up a new fall coat, I've seen a couple of those dogs even sitting on their fat womans lap giving them driving lessons, those are some patient pups, thats for sure.

 

Pavlov would be proud.

 

I dont have any experience with shock collars, but ive definitely seen them used the wrong way.

You really have to work on the jumping up on people with labs. I've had two labs and both are/were very well behaved dogs, except for the jumping up on people.

 

I really want to behave but is just so hard for me sometimes. Lol






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I used to raise beagles for rabbit hunting and field trialing. There is no better way to break them from running off game (anything other than a rabbit) than with a shock collar. You can also use the tone feature to teach them to come to you when called.

If you dont know what youre doing or dont have much patience or get mad easy youll probably do more harm than good.

 

Lol sarcasm or not, logic just waved goodbye. Dogs are animals and that is often forgotten by many. Mine is one of my best friends but they are in no way shape or form close to being a human

 

This book is fantastic, if you want to get the most out of your pup.

You can find used ones on ebay for under 10 bucks.

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Last month I was in Colorado and I saw a dog that looked kinda like a boarder collie, that dog had trained its owner to drive it around in a 40 foot motor home, where the heck that dog got the cash for that rig I'll never know, but he had enough left over to buy a stupid looking hat he made his driver wear while piloting that monster around town.

 

Some dogs may need a shock collar.

 

There are many different types of shock collars and many different uses for the shock collars. It's hard to generalize, so I will detail what I have used and my experiences:

(1) Bark collar. My first epagneul breton barked at robins all day long. I have no problem with the barking, however I live in a lake community and exceesive barking is not acceptable. She started doing this around eight months old. I put the collar on her for one day. She got zapped two or three times and the barking stopped. Problem solved.
(2) E-Fence. Great invention. Epagneul bretons are the smallest pointing breed in the world. (maybe wouldn't work for larger breeds) We have an acre lot and about half of it is fenced in. My first bret did not have a thought of leaving the fence. My second wants to crawl under the fence. We ran an e-fence along the bottom of the actual fence. She got zapped 2 or 3 times and now she respects her boundaries. It has a buzz associated with it before it shocks and she understands it. If it was legal my teenage daughter would wear one.
(3) Training Collar. Don't buy a cheap one. Spend $300.00+ and you will be fine. Many diiferent uses of this collar. My dog only wears this collar training for hunting and hunting. My collar is used only if she is in danger or she goes out too far. Sometimes there are trains, vehicles, bridges, other dogs, idiots, etc. that are also out in the field. If my dog gets a buzz she comes to me pretty quick. If she ignores the buzz, I light her up. She stands frozen when this happens. She has been shocked five to ten times while training and once ever out in the field. For me its more about safety than hunting. I am not a professional hunter and should not being giving advice on training dogs, I am an average joe giving you my experience. I also just love spending time in the field with my dog hunting and doing other hunting related stuff with my dog. She is by far not the best hunting dog I have owned, but she is great with my wife and daughters and around the home. They are bred to be angels in the home and devils in the field. As a breed they live up to it.

 

I think before you use a shock collar on a dog, you need to put it on your own neck on the highest setting and shock yourself. Then, and only then if you don't mind it happening to you, use it on your dog. Otherwise, return it and get your money back.

 

Done it. Not too bad. I would aslo like to apply your logic. (1) For those that don't have a fence and let them run loose, have your spouse run you over in the truck. (2) For those that toss em in a kennel. Live out there yourself for just a couple of days. (3) For those that tie them up, yeah lets put it around your neck with a chain.

The bottom line is this. We will not all agree on how to train our dogs.

 

And nobody should get their dog neutered unless they've cut their own nuts off first and don't mind it.

 

How about wearing one of those plastic cones around your neck so you can't lick your ..........

 

Well this thread took an interesting turn.

 

Ill have to agree, thats why my wife and I tried it on eachother. Didnt use our necks though, did our arms, then I realized what I was doing. Unfortunately this means that I have no idea how to take of a dog to some people and I am a total idiot = \ Id love to meet some of these internet toughguys some day.

 

Yes it has

 

FTR, I think I'll just stick to without the collar, at least for now. I think I will feel better doing the training with conventional methods.

 

Your pup will respond faster and in a more positive way to kind words and healthy treats for rewards than if you try burning the fur of with high voltage, enjoy your pup.
The key, is being smarter than the dog, not being tougher.