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Do you believe in Dog shock collars?

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  1. BJE80

    BJE80 Legendary Woodsman

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    What is your opinion on dog shock collars? Is it the right way to train? Wrong way? I'll be honest, I've never used one or been around anyone that has used one. The dogs I've had I have found other ways to train. Having said that, it would be nice in some instances with our 5 month old puppy to add a correction "remotely" when the dog isn't right next to you (runs out of the yard, jumps up on people, is not doing what I want while hunting, etc)


    I'm not sure how I feel about them though.


    Thoughts, comments, experiences are appreciated.
     
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    bloodcrick Moderator/BHOD Prostaff

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    Only time i tried one was on my chocolate lab! She has a problem when eating and i was trying to break her. Shock color just made it worse, i quit with it right away! I only feed her when nobody is around and i stay till she is done!
     
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    What is the issue? Food guarding?
     
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    jvanhees Die Hard Bowhunter

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    Shock collars are the best tools I have used in training my two labs...BUT you need to know how to use them. You can't use them as a scolding device!!!!!! A lot of ppl do and the dog reacts horribly. I have a Tritronics, and so do the other 6 ppl I know with hunting labs. It has also saved my dogs life when rushing after a deer into oncoming traffic...deer did not make it. Ill swear by these, and your dog will be a totally different dog when u put one on! Just do the research.
     
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    I used one on my Lab and she is great. Get one with enough range and numerous settings. As was said before, they are not punishment. You have to set them to the lowest setting that still gets their attention. More of a reminder. I probably only used the vibrate setting most of the time.
     
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    I think 5 months of age is a bit too young.

    I believe that they are effective under the right user. If you dont know how to use one do not use it, you will traumatize your dog. How do I know? I used it on my dog, very little at first. But one time he went chasing after a cat, I pressed on it, didnt see him and cranked it up to 8 and I heard him yelping right near me. Since then, he just trembles the whole time he has it on. Dont ever crank it all the way up, you should try it on yourself too. I turned it up to 3, didnt hurt as much as it well shocked me. Guess the fear of that would make anyone shake while they have it on never knowing when it'll go off. But imagine that around a dogs neck.

    I dont think it should be used as a disciplinary tool either, I had a neighbor who had it on all 3 of his dogs, whenever they barked he used it. Guess what, it didnt work and all they had were huge marks around their necks. You can still train a dog without it, just use it wisely.

    Also, my dog hates this foam I put in his ear to clean it out. I tried putting on the shock collar since he stays still, but he kept moving, I shocked him. He took the shock over having a foam in his ear to get the infection out.
     
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    If used properly and under the best of training circumstances then YES I think they're great but if not used properly they are ineffective and inflict pain on an animal for no reason
     
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    I also believe they are great tool when training. Its all in how they're used. They work wonders on the dogs I've seen that have the underground fence. But all those dogs were trained well since puppies with them and they worked well.
     
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    I'm not a fan of shock collars but I also dont have any experience with them. I got lucky with my dog. He was a very quick learner so I never even looked into them

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    I don't like them. Like chopayne said the fear of ever knowing when it would go off would drive me mad. I would never want to do that to my dog. I just trained my dog from when he was young andhe listens fine.
     
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    First off if you are hurting your dog with a collar then you are using it wrong. Some of you should be beat and then shocked for the things you have admittedly done to your dogs.
    The collar is meant to change the dogs train of thought or to interrupt it for a moment so the dog can hear your command and respond accordingly, the dog should not fear you nor the collar.
    In truth many people should never own a dog, if you don't have the knowledge and Patience then don't buy a puppy and think it will turn into a hunting machine after it sits in a kennel 6 days per week while you work and come Saturday become a master retriever. Your both gonna be disappointed.
    Just stick to golfing, throw your clubs in the pond in anger and you won't be surprised that they don't come back either.
     
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    Wow, yea not all of us perfect. Pretty sure there are a thousand things I could nit pick about your life and how you should be thrown in jail and beat mercilessly, but guess what, I dont. You should stick to living your miserable life, looks like you had some bad parenting, maybe a shock collar wouldve helped.
     
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    Chill people.
     
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    e-collars are an excellent training tool. But first, you must train yourself on dog training in general and the proper use of an e-collar.

    Don't buy a cheap one.

    I had the luxury of having Graf teach me how to use the collar (if'n ya'll didn't know, Todd trained champion gun dogs back in the day). She's a poorly trained dog overall (compared to her potential as a bird dog) but the commands that are important (here, heel, sit, leave it) she knows and obeys. This is important because we take her into some pretty dangerous places where if I had to just 'hope' she listened... she'd probably end up dead.

    Ever since she was a few months old she wore an e-collar whenever we went out. My dog associates the collar with going out and having fun. I usually don't even turn it on or bring the remote.

    I agree that some people shouldn't have dogs at all. I have seen too many who's idea of dog training is to screech commands at them over and over and over again, in futility. My ex would shout 'here' at my dog when she was a puppy and then punch her in the face when she'd finally come over to him. He couldn't grasp why the dog didn't want to go to him. Idiot. :mad:
     
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    You show exactly the lack patience and knowledge I was referring to. Your dog loves you unconditionally, to harm him is shameful, and a sign of ignorance, he is an animal and he only desires to please you, in return for this love of you, you scream at him and inflict pain neither of which he comprehends.
    One day you might reach a level of maturity that warrants you having a dog, but for now I think you should stick to inanimate objects, as they feel neither love or pain.
     
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    You're right, I and many others enjoy beating our dogs.
     
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    Gentlemen take it to PMs so Brad can actually get the advice he is looking for in this thread
     
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    I haven't needed to use them but I am not against using them. With my German Shepherd we did obedience class and she just learned from practice to listen to our commands and stay in our yard (that is unless she is chasing a deer or squirrel which she returns promptly). We also trained her to ring a bell hanging on the back door to let us know she needs to go to the bathroom.
     
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    My girl stays in the yard really well until one of the neighbors comes in their backyard. Then she can't resist going over to say hi. Lol

    I always have a 6' rope on her when she is loose so I can catch her when not listening.

    I have to work on jumping up more as well. Before she gets bigger. Lol


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