Do you believe in "Divine Intervention"?

You should for a moment talk normal and not try to proselytize people.

 

The thing that turned me most away from church? Hypocrites who attend church. I know that may not be everyone in church, but I met so many *****s in high school who claimed to be christians, so many boys/men who would do bad things but claim to be christian. That is what turned me away, I tried to convert when I had a girlfriend who wanted me to, but I was too far gone. Id sure love some Jesus love, but logically and through everything ive experienced I can't imagine one. And if there were one, well, he'd be the ******* i depicted earlier.

 

Your definition of normal differs from mine.
Should is a poor way to start.

 

There is so much wrong in this. You appear to be making excuses for your lack of faith. Do you not know that you were bought for a price? The choice to reject Jesus is yours alone to bear. There are incorrect teachings and choice individuals everywhere, however; truth can be obtained by the diligent if pursued. I would encourage an extended effort in view of the Cross.

 

....oh spot. You are one of the kinds of people who turn me away from the faith. You're so blindsided and unknowingly ignorant of things around you.

 

Elaborate

 

Do you not understand that some people just don't believe in the bible? I don't think you do based on your comments. You should also work on talking without quoting things. It really makes the conversation more fluid. I guaranty you don't talk like this in person.

 

What is in the heart comes out of the mouth.
Your lack of faith is not on my hands.

 

...and you just justified everything I've been saying about you.

 

I know there are unbelievers.
Quotes are for clarity
I guarantee you would be wrong.

Washing my hands here.

 

I thought you said you already knew what the Bible says??? It does NOT say the above bolded statement.

 

Yeah man, as long as deep down you know Jesus has NOTHING to do with man made doctrines that were birthed from the twisting of Scriptures....too many church goers make church attendance or membership a litmus test for our walk with God ...I used to be there for the very same reasons you were ...I was TAUGHT those lies ....your walk with Christ has NOTHING to do with church attendance...or at least it shouldn't

 

Your current situation is self inflicted...you can choose to believe God or man...you know what His Book says...

 

This has been an enjoyable conversation. (Seriously)

 

It's all blind luck, or the real bad things would never take place. Like innocent kids at schools,world trade center, the pope even has been shot shot in the past so I would think he had a "in" of sorts in this matter.

 

There is noone that is perfect. We all mess up and often can be seen as hypocrites; Christian, Jew, none believer, Atheist, etc. Being, becoming, or professing to be a Christian doesn't change that. And it's unfathomable why an almighty, omnipotent, omniscient and loving God would do the things he does.

If you have kids (or look at it from your parents view) you want what's best for them, you establish rules to protect them and others. But kids don't listen; they venture out of the yard, they play in the street, they stick things in electrical outlets and get zapped. Sometimes they learn (get zapped, get hurt, get caught) sometimes not and they continue to push the limits, boundaries and see what else they can get away with. As a parent we love our kids and expect/hope for the reciprocation.

As children, we can't understand all the reasons (might get hit by a car, get hurt, get abducted, social norms, laws) but there is a level of trust and obedience that is expected; some times with a spanking but some times the same hand picking us up, giving hugs and the like.

At its very simplest (and overly simplified) that same love and innocence of (most) parents is not unlike God. As parents we raise or kids to make good decisions, want that love, but know we can't always control or kids.

Why does he love us and want the best for us? We may not fully know, but I have to believe the creator has to care for his creation, it's that simple.

Also if you can believe the could be a God a creator that can create the rules of science (physics, biology, etc) and the complexities of everything the workings of the human body (dna on up) to the physics that allow the earth to spey life and stay in orbit around the sun; the glue that holds molecules together and on and on; is not that far off a leap to believe he knows a lot more that we can ever know and there is purpose to what he does...