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Do I need to get a twist?

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  1. Vabowman

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    Put the new Gas Freakshows on and the shop had already tuned the bow before I got there. Didn't know they were doing that but oh well. I now have about 75 shots through it and it is dead on however, there is some slight peep rotation, I can see through the peep but I also see some of the string. If I give it a slight little twist before I shoot it's wide open at full draw. Would I guess is, the string has now settled and it needs a twist to set the peep? I hate do that being that the bow is tuned and shooting so well. Always been told any time you touch the string or press the bow it needs to be retuned??
     
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    I would have to get that fixed. No sense in putting up with it and then come full draw on one just to have forgotten to twist it ahead of time.
     
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    never know this day and age:biggrin:
     
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    I usually dont tune my bow when i put on new strings. I will shoot it 50 plus times to get the strings to do there final stretch and settle in. Then i tune. I do how ever put the strings really close to factory specs when they first go on.

    Guess your 2 options are first is to reset your strings and twist them back into spec. Then tune the bow again. Or just keep twisting your peep and training the string to stay into position. Just something you have to do before almost every shot for awhile.

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    IMO, putting 1/2 a twist into the string to fix a minor peep rotation isn't going to affect your tune enough to worry about it.
     
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    yeh I don't know why these shops around here tune right after the strings are put on. I have never had a set of new strings go on and stay put. I would have liked to get 100 shots through it first. We had 3 bows that got new strings and cables and all of them have a peep that is rotating.
     
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    Get the peep adjusted, you don't want to fight that all hunting season.
    Not to be a jerk or anything but I would be very surprised if the bow is as tuned as you believe it to be.
    Some Tech at a shop was so impatient that he "tuned" the bow by shooting it himself through paper rather than waiting and having you shoot it through paper. Does he have the same draw length as you? Same grip position and pressure as you? Same face anchor? Same face to string pressure?
    And that was done before the string set had even had a chance to settle.
    If you want to check, a hunting bow setup is generally considered decently tuned when it shoots a fixed BH and a field point together at 20 yards.
     
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    I agree 100%. I did shoot it through paper and it bullet holed perfectly. I also 1000% agree with a fixed BH and FP together at 20 yds. Been doing that for many years. No offense taken. Great response
     
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    for more of a string rotation twist the bottom, for small rotation twist the string from the top .... mine does that (catfish vec 99) .... no biggie, rather than messing with the string when every thing is set/tuned, I just make a slight adjustment/twist by hand or when its hanging in a tree, a minor adjustment after nocking the BH/arow.... it always rotates about 1/8 twist and when drawn, and its perfect .... and no, I dont forget the slight adjustment after the arrow is nocked .. its part of my routine now... many do this (pros also) even when on the line or 3d stake prior to shooting .... yea, I could fix it(twisting), but I'm not messing with it (my OCD isnt that bad)... it shoots great as it is
    if it twists a small amount, the d-loop material inserted into the string may help or the little thingies that go in he string just may be enough ... myself, I'd mess with the string twisting/untwisting to get it right...
     
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    I am confused. you said you twist by hand no biggie, your last senrtence you said you would mess with the string by twisting or untwisting to get it right. Do you mean bow press and all to twist or you still talking by hand each time before you shoot?
     
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    For clarity, you accidently said that backwards.
    Twisting the top of the string has more effect on the peep than twisting the bottom of the string. Twisting top end of string is the "course" adjustment, twisting the bottom is the "fine" adjustment.
     
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    If I wanted to mess with it, I'd put it the press and twist away till it was straight at brace and full draw... however, the slight offset of the peep is only about a 1/8 off to the right, it comes to perfect alignment at full draw, so why take a chance with my tune as my FP's/BH's are great right now with the tune ... soooo, prior to drawing, I just give it a tweek (by hand, IF needed), and the peep comes back perfect.... plus, I have my loop a tad to the right at brace, which helps recenter the peep at draw ..

    Mod-it.. yea, I was back asswards on that .. I knew what it was , just a late night ... ;0)

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    your peep is in a very similar place as mine
     
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    Fix it right rather that look for band aids.

    ~Press the bow and take the peep out. mark the location with a paint marker
    ~make sure you take all the serving off.
    ~ add full twist from the top, making sure your d loop comes back to the original position.

    ~ place the peep in the center of your mark,

    -Draw the bow back and make sure the peep comes back straight. if so then secure the peep with a constrictor knot.
    ~ if it still rotating then take 1/2 twist out in the direction it rotated.
    ~ if it’s straight secure it with a constrictor knot and add hitched on the legs.

    If it’s still spinning then your string wasn’t correctly pre stretched prior to building the string and serving the ends. In that case you need to have who ever built it do it over correctly.
     
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    It's great for new strings you can keep shooting and adjust. After a few hundred shots take it out and good to go

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    Im just baffled at 160$ that all this needs to be done. I get that 25-50 shots to settle but 200? At this point, I am not sure a peep sight is even worth the trouble. what say you?
     
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    some dont use 'em. .. I would never shoot a open sight rifle without the rear sight, and I will ALWAYS use a peep ... I like my accuracy .... with the materials like Vec 99 and others, it wont take 200 shots to settle.... I shot my new set about 30 shots, put the peep in, and while slightly cockeyed at rest, It comes back perfect as stated, I'm not messin' with it( close to 500 shots now on it) ..... ... I have a set made of Mercury on my old Allegiance, same thing, peep off a tad but still shot great, using the loop to fix 'em ... maybe after season, next spring I'll fix it for good
     
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    I would never go without a peep.

    Something else to consider is the alignment between your string loop and your peep. Per 0317's photo, your peep can be a little off at rest but if your loop is in line with the peep it will rotate the string as you come to full draw and you'll be set. I've seen plenty of cases where the loop slips around the string a bit and causes a misaligned peep rather than string stretch doing it.

    If your peep is just slightly off at rest and your loop is straight, you can also consider tying on a new loop that aligns with your peep. It's not ideal, but if you don't have a press it will certainly get the job done.
     
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