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Disrespecting Pearl Harbor Day?

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  1. dukemichaels

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    No. Make no mistake. Those hundred thousand soldiers died for money. Communism was how the government sold it.
     
  2. dukemichaels

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    Amen.
     
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    Nice to see your name again Mike
     
  4. Chris1982

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    Our flag should never be lowered for a foreign figure no matter how good or bad he was, I can't even imagine there being any argument otherwise.
     
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    Apparently present Eisenhower didn't agree with you?




    Proclamation 3044 - Display of the Flag of the United States of America at Half-Staff Upon the Death of Certain Officials and Former Officials
    March 1, 1954




    Office of the Federal Register


    By the President of the United States of America
    A Proclamation
    Whereas it is appropriate that the flag of the United States of America be flown at half-staff on Federal buildings, grounds, and facilities upon the death of principal officials and former officials of the Government of the United States and the Governors of the States, Territories, and possessions of the United States as a mark of respect to their memory; and


    Whereas it is desirable that rules be prescribed for the uniform observance of this mark of respect by all executive departments and agencies of the Government, and as a guide to the people of the Nation generally on such occasions:


    Now, Therefore, I, Dwight D. Eisenhower, President of the United States of America and Commander in Chief of the armed forces of the United States, do hereby prescribe and proclaim the following rules with respect to the display of the flag of the United States of America at half-staff upon the death of the officials hereinafter designated:


    1. The flag of the United States shall be flown at half-staff on all buildings, grounds, and naval vessels of the Federal Government in the District of Columbia and throughout the United States and its Territories and possessions for the period indicated upon the death of any of the following-designated officials or former officials of the United States:


    (a) The President or a former President: for thirty days from the day of death. The flag shall also be flown at half-staff for such period at all United States embassies, legations, and other facilities abroad, including all military facilities and naval vessels and stations.


    (b) The Vice President, the Chief Justice or a retired Chief Justice of the United States, or the Speaker of the House of Representatives: for ten days from the day of death.


    (c) An Associate Justice of the Supreme Court, a member of the Cabinet, a former Vice President, the President pro tempore of the Senate, the Majority Leader of the Senate, the Minority Leader of the Senate, the Majority Leader of the House of Representatives, or the Minority Leader of the House of Representatives: from the day of death until interment.


    [Sec. 1 amended by Proc. 3948 of Dec. 12, 1969, 34 FR 19699, 3 CFR, 1966-1970 Comp., p. 446]


    2. The flag of the United States shall be flown at half-staff on all buildings, grounds, and naval vessels of the Federal Government in the metropolitan area of the District of Columbia on the day of death and on the following day upon the death of a United States Senator, Representative, Territorial Delegate, or the Resident Commissioner from the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, and it shall also be flown at half-staff on all buildings, grounds, and naval vessels of the Federal Government in the State, Congressional District, Territory, or Commonwealth of such Senator, Representative, Delegate, or Commissioner, respectively, from the day of death until interment.


    3. The flag of the United States shall be flown at half-staff on all buildings and grounds of the Federal Government in a State, Territory, or possession of the United States upon the death of the Governor of such State, Territory, or possession from the day of death until interment.

    4. In the event of the death of other officials, former officials, or foreign dignitaries, the flag of the United States shall be displayed at half-staff in accordance with such orders or instructions as may be issued by or at the direction of the President, or in accordance with recognized customs or practices not inconsistent with law.


    5. The heads of the several departments and agencies of the Government may direct that the flag of the United States be flown at half-staff on buildings, grounds, or naval vessels under their jurisdiction on occasions other than those specified herein which they consider proper, and that suitable military honors be rendered as appropriate.


    Citation: Dwight D. Eisenhower: "Proclamation 3044 - Display of the Flag of the United States of America at Half-Staff Upon the Death of Certain Officials and Former Officials," March 1, 1954. Online by Gerhard Peters and John T. Woolley, The American Presidency Project. Dwight D. Eisenhower: Proclamation 3044 - Display of the Flag of the United States of America at Half-Staff Upon the Death of Certain Officials and Former Officials.
     
  6. gltomp

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    My dad was at Pearl Harbor the morning of December 7th, 1941. He was 20 years old, lying in a hammock reading the Sunday paper. I went hunting today and said a prayer asking God to embrace all the souls lost that day and all the others that were there but have passed since (including my dad). I see some of the Pearl Harbor Survivors every now and then and shake their hand every time I'm with them.

    I've never been to the Arizona Memorial... but I've been to Dachau - and the 'errie' feeling one receives there is probably the same at both places.

    R.I.P. Robert C. Tompkins
    T-Corporal, U.S. Army
    1941 - 1945
    Love 'ya Dad!

    I asked him to send a buck by me today... but it didn't happen.
     
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    I too have been to several of the concentration camps in Europe and at Dachau had eerie chills on several occasions.
     
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    I'm aware that it is legal, that doesn't mean I agree with it. There are quite a few laws that I don't like.
     
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    It's a big world. Believe it or not there are important things which happen outside of the United States from time to time. That is all I'm saying.
     
  10. Chris1982

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    I've been to quite a bit of this big world, I don't think the display of our national colors should change to honor anyone who does not represent us.
     
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    When we lower the flag... we are as a nation, symbolically bowing, we don't bow to foreigners, this should be non negotiable.
     
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    How about holding their hands?
     
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    So long as they wash them first.
     

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