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Dems are fractured, in chaos, split, imploding and divided. A party in shambles

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  1. Wiscohunter

    Wiscohunter Die Hard Bowhunter

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    I love reading your guys posts. I've learned that virtually anything can be blamed on the "liberal media". Since joining this forum I've seen people complain about how gas prices are too high and that "Obama's dream of $5 a gallon is coming true" (whatever that means) to blaming him for TOO low of gas prices (what!?) In a way I truly hope Trump wins. Not only because I want to see how long you will continue to blame Obama for the inevitable terrible job that Trump will do, but also I want to know what all you will talk about when not circle jerking yourselves into a dizzy.
     
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    I really hope that you get to hear complaints about President Trump.
     
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    Well first of all, many are blaming the liberal media for exactly what they are guilty of, which is altering search results, favoring liberal interest groups, and silencing conservative movements, groups, and social media tags. You can't argue that they haven't done those things. In regards to Obama wanting to increase gas prices, he was specifically talking about energy in general which included gas prices and he said, he wanted (and I quote) "a necessary gradual adjustment". As the economy worsened and the recession hit harder, gas prices climbed to over $4 per gallon for some time. Were you under a rock during that time, because it did happen. The reason it even went down is because there hasn't been any growth in oil demands and supplies have grown. Nothing Obama has done has translated to cheaper gas. I'm not sure who or where you saw that someone blamed him for gas prices being too low. Perhaps you were reading about interest rates?? Anyway, I'm not sure many of us here think Trump is some magical fix for what we've seen the past few decades, but he's surely not Hillary and we can only hope that he won't continue us down the path of government is responsible for everything good, apologize to the world for being great, socialist nonsense Obama has taken us down.
     
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    If you really believe that the search results are not manipulated, then you are in the dark on this subject.
     
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    They only rely on illegals because illegals are available. Legal Non-citizen immigrants can be used to do that work just as easily as illegals. Most every other industry has used technology and advanced and improved how they get the job done, that hasn't been as much the case with certain aspects of agriculture because of the cheap illegal labor. There is a yet pretty much untapped area for innovation which would create more high paying jobs. The claim of higher food prices is greatly exaggerated.
     
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    I hope Trump wins and will be voting for him. If half of the people hold their word that treaten to leave the country if he is elected, that alone is worth inauguration. If 100% of them hold to their words, I'll vote for him again in 2020 on those principles alone to get another batch of them out of here.
     
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    Where have you been living for the last 7 years? Gas prices were at historic highs for 7 years of Obummers presidency which is a fact. Now that the prices are lower they are taking credit for low prices. People have a short memory when it comes to that kind of stuff and look at all the other failed policy's he backed, affordable health care only if you don't have a job, his constant attacks against the 2nd amendment, race baiting the whole country I could go on and on but you obviously are a sheep following the flock. Is Trump the answer? I doubt it but Hillary isn't anything but a crook and definitely not fit to run the country.
     
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    Sheep following the flock? I'm a democrat not voting for Hillary and you just repeated everything every blowhard republican talking head has been saying about Obama since he's taken office, so who's the sheep again?
     
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    Facts are facts not the crap spewed by either side. Why anyone would want a socialist society is beyond me stop looking at the government to fix your problems but I'm glad you're not voting for Hillary I personally don't want to vote for anybody there isn't a good choice in this election.
     
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    lol Made my day.
     
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    My vote is forthe Supreme Court, Trump will have 4 years to convince me he is worthy.

    Hillary has already had a career showing me why she is unworthy. Her husband had 8 years, and her divider in chief mentor has had the past 8 years.

    Scalia's passing left a split Supreme Court. Scalia was appointed by Reagan. Think about that, Reagan. A lot of members on this site were not even born yet. Their entire lifetime, and he was young enough to serve another decade or more, seen him on the court.

    The next President is going to have 4 or 5 appointees, one immediately filled(Obama's choice or Trump's). So people born over the next 4-8 years will live the better part of half their life under the next Supreme Court, the rest of us will live our final days under it and by the time the next revamp is done who knows what this country will be like by that point if Hillary is elected.

    We need constitutionalist on the courts not agenda driven appointees.
     
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    everyone read that post AGAIN!!!:clap:
     
  13. cls74

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    I just wish everyone would understand the Supreme Court ramifications.

    I can't vote for Trump, he's a big meanie. Every vote that is not for Trump also does not negate a Hillary vote.

    Don't vote for Trump, vote for the SCOTUS.

    Vote for how your children and grandchildren, for some even great grandchildren, should live. Freebies for everyone now only hurts the ones yet to be born having to pay for it.

    This country has stayed where it is by our constitution. Reinterpret it, it doesn't take rewriting, via the SCOTUS and you are forever changed as a nation for at least a generation.

    Don't vote for Trump, don't vote for Hillary. Only one of the two will win, I'll place any denomination of monetary bet on that. Instead, vote for the Supreme Court. That is "THE" only thing that matters. If Trump pulls a Reagan, more power to him. If not then maybe a few noninations to SCOTUS save us for a couple more decades
     
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    So no flags or symbols of the United States at the DNC.

    Notice how none of them are ending with God bless America?

    Not even a former US president or the current first lady. Hell, B. Clinton didn't even wear a flag laple pin.

    Is this election not about America?
     
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    All I need to know about democrats I can see in places like California. Any dem ran state or city is not a place for me or anything I want for myself or my children. I dont need to be told what guns I can have or how much soda to drink ect ect ect.
     
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    Concerning the algorithems and the facts behind them I will just say that "figures don't lie but liars figure". Manipulation of the masses by media information has always been an objective. The battle has always been the hearts and minds of the people. Sadly most people do not bother to become involved enough with the facts but just rely upon a corrupt media and or social media to make ill-informed decisions. It has saddened me to listen to some of the Watters World segments where he asks simple questions about government facts like "What does the Supreme Court Do" "Who is the Vice President" etc. etc. etc. and the ignorance of people astound me. It is no wonder that we have elected officials like we do.
     
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    So who do you believe then? Where do you get your information and how do you form an opinion? Maybe the blowhard republicans are telling the truth on a number of things. Gas was up to over $4 per gallon just a few years ago. Fact. Obama said on national TV that he wanted a "necessary gradual increase" in energy costs. Fact. The economy stumbled even further under democrat policies. Fact. Unemployment, when you include those who have stopped looking for work is higher now that before he took office. Fact. Average median income has dropped. Fact. Welfare and food stamps are up. Fact. Obamacare has failed. Fact. These are not talking points, these are truths with statistics available to everyone backing them up. You worry more about who is doing the talking and less about where the data came from. Maybe you should actually investigate what is being said, by both parties, and form a half witted opinion before you come on here talking about circle jerks and calling anything you disagree with as republican blowhard talking points. Maybe I expected more but then again I guess I don't know many rational democrats, especially with what that party supports these days.
     
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    Sad to say, DNC hit it out of the park with Bill last night.
     
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    This pretty well sums up my thoughts on slick Willie.

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