no proof ha ? how bout the numerous texts discussing the deflation on the ball boys phones..... FROM BRADY'S PHONE # ? they convict and execute people for murder for less phone evidence than that < FACT goody boy and krafty had this planned all along.....goody had to suspend him to apease the rest of the league and the fans, knowing full and well they'd get mr. bundchen out of this in the end. MONEY TALKS = CHEATERS WALK !
For the cry babies that still want him suspended it does not matter if he did it himself, knew about it or not, there has never been a person suspended or team fined for any similar type of situations like they were. You cant take something that gets a $25,000 fine for all other issues and then fine 1 million and suspend for four games. Also you must be wearing blinders because there were plenty of QB's that said they did similar things with the balls whether they took some air out or added some air at the beginning of this.
Bingo. This is my take on it. All QBs flirt with this line and work the balls over. The part that bugged me is how it's a very well defined punishment (25k) that Goodell threw out the window increased by 4000% and added a 4 game suspension for good measure. The NFL is not his league, it belongs to the owners and the rules should be followed.
Simple question. How is deflating the balls to below standard any different than say corking a bat in baseball?
It's not, that's why the rules are made. Not sure what that has to do with this case. The guys that allegedly modified the ball pressures were fired...
Do you think think the hitter corks his own bet or do you think someone does it for them? Sent from my LG-D850 using Tapatalk
I'm not going to speculate on hypotheticals, I have no evidence anyone is corking bats period, let alone which party or by what means they may be doing it. It'd be like comparing apples to cucumbers.
No, it's pretty much apples to apples, you are just unwilling to admit the merit in the argument. There have been several MLB players busted for hitting with a corked bat, most notably was Sammy Sosa in 2003. It's knowingly breaking the rules of the game to gain an advantage or perform at a higher level. You cork a bat to lighten it up and speed up the hitters swing giving them a timing advantage by being able to see a pitch longer. Lowering the PSI of a football also gains a performance advantage for anyone handling the ball, but especially for the quarterback. It's soft and easier to grip, it's easier to catch and less likely to be fumbled. Only a hitter would want a bat corked and only a quarterback would want the air let out of the ball. No equipment manager is going to go out of their way to change either without someone instructing them to.
Lol, You're right, I am unwilling to acknowledge the merit in that argument, because there is none. If lowering the air in a football makes it easier to catch, it would stand to reason that the most interested party would be the receivers...not the QB. Jerry Rice already admitted to as much. Brady also played better after the balls were properly inflated so why does he think under inflated ones are better? There's also the possibility the equipment personnel rigged the balls under financial arrangement of another team as a setup to cause the Patriots trouble, the texts between the equipment manages sounded more like they hated Brady than they were doing him a favor. Suspicious the Colts knew about the balls. Any way you cut it, you still have nothing but circumstantial evidence (not even evidence but gut feeling). I'd suggest if you have evidence Brady ordered the balls to be deflated or did it himself....take it to the NFL. I'm not sure what you think you're arguing about at this point. This judge pretty much said in every way, shape and form that the league wrongly imposed the suspension on Brady...if you can't accept that and/or don't like it....really that's too damn bad because you're arguing a case that was studied by a legal expert in a far greater depth than either one of us is capable of.
You love the conspiracy theory, so who's to say the patriots or Brady didn't pay off the judge. The judge also never ruled anything in any way that exonerated Brady. He just said there were flaws in the process. It's the equivalent to getting away with murder because the police forgot to read you your Miranda Rights.
Hey, one wild eyed theory is as good as another, won't do you any good to keep crying about it and trying to one up the last comment. The judge didn't need to exonerate Brady because the league had no proof that he did anything wrong. All the judge had to do was prove the league was biased and overstepped their authority. The judges comments throughout the hearing showed he felt the leagues case was a pathetic witch hunt. That's a bit of a gross comparison don't ya think? That's the sort of stupid over reaching comparison, biased, butthurt whiners make. I thought you would be above comparing Brady and under inflated balls to murder but I guess there really are no lines too profound to cross for those determined to blow something out of proportion. This was closer to being a case where the cops picked up some poor smuck with no alibi and tried to pin a murder on him with no witness, no murder weapon and no evidence linking the guy to the crime except that he lived on the same block as the murder so a judge releases the guy based on no evidence. No, that judge didn't exonerate the guy, he simply states the police had no right to make the arrest. It's a slam dunk...
To try and compare with getting away with murder doesnt surprise me...it does baffle me but not surprise. If you want a comparison when other players get pulled over for speeding a few miles over the speed limit they get a ticket when Brady got pulled over for speeding GOOdell threw him in jail.
Well the Patriots beating the Colts in the AFC championship game by 40 points had nothing to do with deflated footballs.. Then after the whole incident Brady went on to beat the Seahawks with footballs that were properly inflated.. Just another example of Americans hating a winner. Personally I could care less about the inflation of footballs. I'm more concerned with the officiating in the league and all these new rules being enforced that have so many grey areas.
Exactly, when pressed most of the folks I've talked to that want to see Brady harshly punished turn out to be grossly biased because they just are fans of other teams and Brady and the Patriots have such a winning record. Personally I'm not a biased fan of any team, or sports in general really. I always enjoyed competing and playing but I've never been that big of a fan of sitting down and watching others play. As far as that goes, I thought the tuck rule which Brady and the Patriots got by with years ago was the most crooked call I've ever seen called and I'm not a Raiders fan either. Fair is fair, I just don't like seeing unfair situations and I'm not biased enough to not give a person the benefit of the doubt when there is no evidence against them. Had the league been able to obtain texts from either party where Brady was boldly demanding the balls be under-inflated, that would have been plenty for me to agree with a fair punishment to fit the crime which was a $25,000 fine. Instead we had a smuck in Goodall who has some ulterior motive, pushing a case that had no standing and over reaching with unfair punishment even if the party were guilty. The entire ordeal just stunk from the get-go on the leagues side as some sort of insane witch hunt.
So what the owner of the Giants was also there as were many people that I imagine would have loved to have seen the decision go the other way.
