Definition of baiting?

You sure it didn't start with Robin Hood hunting the enchanted forrest? Lol

 

I live in Tennessee. From what TWRA has said it technically doesn’t go into effect until next year. I knew it was coming once they got banned from trespassing on private property without a warrant. They got themselves in trouble out in west Tennessee. The bait permit is just way for them to make more money. Since they are self funded basically they lost of revenue once they couldn’t just run all over private property. At least from what I’ve read


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The TWRA asked for an increase in licenses to fund their agency. A committee, name escapes me, turned it down. It came out that they needed 28 officers but that was shot down due to lack of funding. No money, no officers. Thought it was odd that they couldn't go onto private property without a warrant. But...the sheriff or city police can pursue a criminal without a warrant? If I had private property, I would welcome TWRA officers to enforce the game laws and not have to contend with a bunch of legal mumbo jumbo. I would put this in writing and send it to the TWRA. Think a judge is going to get out of bed at 2 AM an issue a warrant? By the time a warrant is issued, poachers and/or trespassers are long gone.

 

What started it all was their over reach and infringing on people rights from what all I’ve read. They could come in your house without a warrant as well. They got caught up in that mess where they were putting cameras on some guys property. I can’t remember the exact details. The guy found them and put them in his safe. They showed up wanting them and he said no. They arrested him and the TN Supreme Court had a hay day with it lol. I don’t have any issues with them myself The higher ups in the agency blows a lot of money on stuff that’s not needed….again, that’s just from stuff I have read over the years. Their lack of taking care of public lands and selling the timber off them I’m guessing left a bad taste in a lot of peoples mouths. I have a friend who is a TWRA officer. After reading all that stuff a few years ago about what they did out in west TN. I can honestly see why the Tn Supreme Court made the decision they did. Most of the wardens I know are good folks are try to do what’s right. I’m guessing the higher ups are the issue like most places. It was the TN wildlife committee, it’s a group of folks who don’t even hunt or fish from my understanding. Politicians basically…lol.

As far as baiting goes I couldn’t care less either way. A food plot or a bag of corn. I didn’t plant my fields for the birds I planted them for the deer. I haven’t in a few years. Fertilizer and seed has went up too much for my taste. They seem to like the clover that keeps coming up so I’m good with that. I have family in Ohio that owns land. They said the more corn you put out the more the deer turn nocturnal and will only come to it at night. I’ve never hunted in a state where you could bait legally, so they might be full of crap for all I know I not buying any permit though. I seem to do ok without it myself.


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I am a firm believer in probable cause, I don't believe in any law enforcement entering private property just to look around.

 

Why would the TWRA have anything to do with the sale of timber? Lack of care of public lands might have something to do with limited funds. I know several TWRA officers. Good guys and girls who do an outstanding job. Don't recall why the cameras were placed on the guy's property. Poachers? I don't believe they were just looking around but looking for something. Surprised he wasn't charged with theft of the cameras. I know a family who lives in the sticks. Has deer carcasses dumped on their property all the time. Some only have the antlers removed. Others have the choice cuts taken and the rest is left.

 

They were placed on his private property. I’m pretty sure they tried to charge him and that is part of what started it all... I could be wrong, but that was some of it. I have no idea why they placed them there. For the TN Supreme Court to hammer TWRA like they did and they even lost their appeal. Something definitely wasn’t on the up and up on their side for the court to side with the citizen. Like I said, it was just all over the internet/news. Articles were all over the place when it started. As far as the sale of timber…no idea other than TWRA wanted the money according to the article on the news site that someone posted a link to I read. Again just repeating some of the stuff I read. It might not even be true but who knows these days. Yeah, most of the officers are decent folks I know. Their limited funds are more than likely due to higher ups mishandling it is my guess. Nothing to due with the local officers. They can only work with what they are given. Which in most cases is probably very little.


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I agree with you 100 percent on that Sir!


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Seems like we got off on a tangent that was not my original inquiry. We can plant a field to attract deer. We can plant farm crops that attract deer. My uncle was picking corn. After several rounds, he noticed something odd in the center of the field. Deer were moving into the center of the field where they weren't noticed. Ate about an acre of corn. But to dump a 25# bag of corn is baiting, depending on regulations. My grandson and I were entering a WMA when we noticed an empty corn bag. We decided to make sure we were real far away if we found any corn...which we didn't.
Let's end this as I'm sure we have other things to do...like bow hunt.