Deductions..... The debate...

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  1. buckeye

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    All of the major scoring systems are based on a system that rewards symmetry, and penalizes a rack for many of the points that hunters love (such as droptines, split tines etc).

    JMbuckhunter for example, many times I have heard him say how much he wants a droptine buck... That is a buck that many guys would love to have on their wall. This is also a buck that most of the scoring orgs. penalize.

    I for one could not care less what an animals net score is. To me it is not about attaining a "higher" score as many purists claim. It's about giving the animal credit for what he has, not deducting for character.

    If I never hear a net score again... I would be fine with that.

    What say you?
     
  2. SparrowHawk

    SparrowHawk Die Hard Bowhunter

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    I agree with you 100% buckeye, and I really couldn't have said it any better myself.
     
  3. GMMAT

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    This is like asking everyone across the country......their opinions on snow blowers.

    I don't give a rat's ass about net scores. And, the longer I hunt......the less I care about gross.
     
  4. buckeye

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    I do not necessarily care about gross score either. If I decide an animal "does it" for me, I do want to know what the score is afterward but could not care less what the actual score is.

    Hope that makes sence.

    *To add* I have no idea what your analogy means.
     
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  5. Finch

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    I think the whole scoring system is silly, myself. I agree with you completely.

    BTW...I don't see this being that much of a debate. Who in their right mind would defend a scoring system where a buck's rack is penalized for growing "bone" the wrong way or asymmetrically ?
     
  6. buckeye

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    Actually there are a lot of people who are that way.
     
  7. Finch

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    I know its a difference of opinion (like many things) but I just don't see the logic?
     
  8. jmbuckhunter

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    As long as he has droptines, I don't care what he scores!! ;) :D
     
  9. KodiakArcher

    KodiakArcher Die Hard Bowhunter

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    Whatever, I shoot what I want to shoot. I have some guidelines based on scoring systems and I do enter things in P&Y but it's me who is the only judge that counts to me.
     
  10. GMMAT

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    Scott:

    My point was....Outside of a few select areas of the country, I'm betting you don't realize how little people care about ANY scoring system.
     
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    In the words of our new found hero..... hunlee "Shooting tomorrows trophys today!"

    Who cares, if ya shoot a buck you must of wanted to for some reason or another not matter the score!
     
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    I (for fun and for record's sake) score every buck we kill at our camp. I haven't and don't ever plan on deducting anything from an animal. I feel the same as you Buckeye.
     
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    Score what he grows...

    for example, we green scored my brothers buck at 205 gross non-typicle (which doesnt even exist technically lol), but im sure he nets somewhere in the 180's
     
  14. GMMAT

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    Oh...the horror!....lol

    You guys who live in the various "Mecca's" have to understand how meaningless this kinda stuff is to most hunters. Don't you?
     
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    Than consider this conversation for those of them who may find some meaning in it. ;)
     
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    Im just a by-product of my environment :D (seriously)

    Jeff, a 160" here is just like a 110" there, im sure both of us aren't passing giving the oppurtunity....and we both know a couple exist
     
  17. Scott/IL

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    This buck here is the perfect example for me:

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    His score sheet would be filled with all sorts of deductions. He is just a cool looking buck that I have grown to like. No doubt about it that I would be very pleased to tag him. I would say that at some point this year, it really hit me for the first time that the score of a rack isn't everything for a buck.

    Net score means nothing to me. I will pay attention to gross, but I don't understand the logic in penalizing a set of antlers for one tine being an inch longer than the other, and so on.
     
  18. virginiashadow

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    I have not been in the big buck game for long in terms of understanding scoring, etc. However, I could care less about deductions. Let a buck be what he is and use gross score.
     
  19. bloodcrick

    bloodcrick Moderator/BHOD Prostaff

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    Personally I dont care about the Net either. Gross is wehere its all about anyway giving credit for whats actually there ;) My buck will certainly not Net book as a typical but thats ok, he still looks awesome on the wall with what he has ;)
     
  20. HuntingBry

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    I agree that scoring a buck based on what he grows is the way to go. The net scores are what are required to join the clubs. Those are their requirements. I know P&Y have done a tremendous amount for bowhunting, but I don't care much at all about their net scoring system.
     

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