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Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by Vendetta, Oct 17, 2012.

  1. Dan

    Dan Senior Member

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    For a number of reasons. The deer population plummeted....like 10% of what it was. We find very few sheds anymore. Plus, a lot of them were from areas that no one had ever been to before and lots I found had been there up to 5 years. Also, I moved back to WI and my brother is not running the camp. I haven't even been up there this year.
     
  2. John Galt

    John Galt Die Hard Bowhunter

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    Sorry to hear that, those were some great pics, did you close on that 38 acre parcel you were looking at? No man should have to live in a sub division!
     
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    41. Not yet. The lady doesn't want to make up her mind. Says she's waiting until the first of the year. I suspect tax purposes. I plan on pushing the issue harder next week.
     
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    John Galt Die Hard Bowhunter

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    Tell her about the 4.85 % shes gonna loose paying for Obama care if she waits till after the new year, that just might spur her into action.
     
  5. Dan

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    ;)

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  6. TEmbry

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    Government contractors are ridiculous, but it's no ones but the government's fault for not shopping around for a more realistic price. Government workers don't care at all about managing funds as it isn't their money being spent (in large part). Same principle applies in healthcare as well.


    Contracts should be lowered, scale pay should be done away with (guys holding a shovel on a road crew making $40+/hr on certain jobs), free handouts should be done away with almost completely and built back up as needed.

    If no one else has said it yet, yes I am stating that most inner city welfare recipients are fully capable of work, and live in areas with several jobs available....it is just more profitable to live off the government than work. Until the opposite is true, nothing will change.
     
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    We need "like" buttons
     
  8. John Galt

    John Galt Die Hard Bowhunter

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    Not till we get a "Go pound sand" smiley! :)
     
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    I have decades of experience with Government workers and that is a load of BS.
     
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    See if we had like buttons I would have liked this also. A go pound sand smiley would be cool too
     
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    That a boy jimbo!!!!!
     
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    There should be an app for that!
     
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    I really should not have let the cat out of the bag about Jim. It was great seeing Germ call him Jeff.

    Thanks for ruining the fun Vito!
     
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    Glad I could help.
     
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    Must just be a southern thing then. As my limited time around government programs indicates otherwise.
     
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    Maybe it's a limited time thing ;) .
     
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    Completely irrelevant when discussing politics. Its best to just use generalizations, especially based on limited experience. No experience is actually better.

    FTR, I'm not directing this at Trevor.
     
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    Whether spending 1 day or 30 years around a program, the ones I personally have experience with are terribly wasteful when it comes to budgeting. Contractors are paid 2-3x what they would get for a private job. Leases are paid a LOT of money to cover everything down to light bulbs going out, because it takes an electrician to screw in a new one. Medicaid REQUIRING brand name drugs to process instead of generics with the same therapeutic effect for pennies on the dollar...the list goes on.

    Are there good eggs in with the bad ones? Sure. Same with private business. The problem is government programs are guaranteed to not fail. Don't make budget? Meh, change the budget. They work by a different set of standards than the private sector. There are GREAT managers in government programs that save MILLIONS of tax dollars (I'm doing a 3 week volunteer rotation with one next summer just to get an inside look at how he continuously spends well below budget with better than average clinical outcomes)... but for every one of them you seemingly have 2 or more that don't care so much. Meeting the cutoffs is all that matters, saving beyond that would be unnecessary.

    But hey, I'm young so don't take my word for it. Wait til I'm 40 for good measure.:D
     
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    Whole lot of misconceptions in those 2 paragraphs. But hey, don't take my word for it. Wait 20 years and you will have the experience to see for yourself. ;) .
     
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    True that, I've never once met an older person who is either wrong or misguided in their thinking.

    It has to be the age that does it.:moose:

    I'll drop out to not misdirect this 15 page thread any further though.
     

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