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Death penalty for the CO movie shooter ?

Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by Rancid Crabtree, Jul 24, 2012.

  1. Muzzy Man

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    Okay... how about strapped down then executed by cremation while 1960s Batman music plays, then flushed?
     
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    He's a sorry excuse for life and just wanted to be famous, shown through his actions at the theater and then surrendering to police without a fight. As far as I'm concerned, he will be a burden on the public no matter what they do to him. If he is given the death penalty, he can drag it out for decades through appeals and costing more than a life sentence. If given life, he'll probably live way too long. Best thing to do would be send his butt to Buldir Island in the Aluetians with nothing more than the clothes on his back. He'll have a few days to reflect on his actions and then can meet his maker.
     
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    I personally really wished that the cops who took him down at the crime scene would have just shot the living S**T out of him. Then it would be over and everyone could move on and try to start the healing procress.

    Now, like every other big criminal case, it will drag on forever and he will probably still be breathing the air with us in 15 or 20 years.

    I do hope they kill the son-of-a-***** though. He doesn't deserve to be on this earth with us.
     
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    Absolutely. First, while the appeals process will cost us a fortune, supporting this scum for the rest of his natural life afterwards will pile on that much more. Second, it will absolutely guarantee that he will not be able to do this again. Third, justice will be served and the families will have closure.

    Well of course not.

    Perhaps not, but if we did it consistently, EVERY time there was no doubt as to the perp's guilt and they knew beyond a shadow of a doubt that they would be executed I'd bet there would be a dramatic drop in these senseless killings.

    No, it's justice.

    There are many things we do in life for which there is no "do over". That's why it's so important to get it right the first time.
     
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    I see life in a small cage, eating horrible food all the while being denied the comfort and love of a good woman,family and friends a far greater punishment than simply drifting off to a pain free sleep.
    I hope he lives a long and very deprived life, full of devious visions and void of even the simplest of life's joyous evens such as a child's birthday party or the soft ears of a dog to pet.
     
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    No question He should have been shot dead at the scene. People like him don't deserve to live. If you rape women and children you don't deserve to live. If you murder people you don't deserve to live.....Just my opinion.....
     
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    It is just like the killer of Jennifer Hudson's family members. He gets 3 life sentences where He will suck up resources for the next 50 years. Screw that....After what He did He should be put in the electric chair....
     
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    That's why I was favoring strapping him in a clear box in a public place so he can witness free people walking about viewing him with a feeding tube strapped down his gullet. I don't know actually how I feel about killing him.

    I can see how killing him let's him off in this life... but taking him out ushers in a very tormented eternity. Justice may be in his thinking he is getting off by dying... only to discover hell... where the fire is never quenched and the worm never dies.
     
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    I would never want to give him the privilege of seeing or feelings the rays of the sun, only darkness, quite darkness,damp quite darkness,decades of damp quite darkness until thats all there is, he's own demons and the darkness forever.
    Death is to good for some, only in life can we force them to suffer, and suffer he will.
     
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    LittleChief nails it, especially with point three. You would see a drop in all crimes if we'd just enforce the laws we already have and insure a swift justice and not keep making new laws that only further tie the hands of law abiding citizens. Screw the bleeding hearts!
     
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    I tend to disagree with such mindsets. I think the state is justified in ending his life and in fact the SC stated so and I think it’s the proper thing to do in this case. I don’t however think any governing authority sanctions a sentence of “suffering”. We either house him with far to many rights and comforts or we kill him but I don’t think any controlling legal authority has the power to enforce retribution in the form of wrath.
     
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    Yes, unfortunately I think we all see how this will play out. We will have to endure a 2 year long court case that will basically become a TV mini series each evening with points and counter points and recaps given by all of the moronic talking heads, then there will be a movie and books. Meanwhile this scumbag will get 3 meals each day, medical care, psychiatric care, vitamins, snacks, attorneys, hair cuts, cable TV, Internet access, stocked library, exercise equipment, clean laundry, he’ll probably take up a hobby or two to pass time etc etc and then maybe, just maybe in 15 or 20 years, they will ever so gently put him to sleep like he was someone’s cherished family pet while a group of idiots stand outside of the prison holding candles, crying and singing hymns. And yippee we get to pay for ALL of it! Oh yeah almost forgot; and on top of all of this in the meantime, our brilliant politicians will keep whittling away at our 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] amendment. And this WILL happen again, I hope it doesn't, but it will.
     
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    In most cases I would agree....but since he had his apartment rigged to blow and further taking more life I'm glad he was arrested.

    Cremate his azz to the music of Batman? Yess! With the Riddler laugh mocking his every last breath.
     
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    You don't feel living in a small cage for the rest of your life suffering, or eating food unfit for civilized man and hearing the sounds of a thousand souls locked in the same conditions as yourself suffrage.
    Killing him is an easy out.
     
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    You will come to learn that I don’t “feel” much but instead I “think”. It’s a fool that searches for logic in the chambers of the heart. Feelings aren’t much good for anything. If I correct your query as follows:

    Do you think living in a small cage for the rest of your life eating food unfit for civilized man and hearing the sounds of a thousand souls locked in the same conditions as yourself is suffering?

    My answer would be yes but I would not be so bold as to answer for another. Our corrections system is not about doling out suffering and wrath. Who would be the sadist that would concoct all the means by which we would make people suffer? You are describing torture. Our legal system does not allow for that. I think this guy should die once convicted.

    Try to get past "feelings" and try on logic for a change.
     
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    AS some one who has lived a great life, the joys of children, a beautiful wife and comfortable home made even more pleasant by the company of some great dogs I think the deprivation of these things we lead to the same conclusion as the electric chair, death by a thousand cuts is as fatal as walking in front of a truck. And in this case my scenario is more likely to take place than a quick needle in the arm.
    As far as punishment goes, if you don't think doing time is suffrage why is it we use the penile system to desolate those whom choose to harm others?
     
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    I'm leaving that one alone. :lol:
     
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    I agree with your point about following our feelings... they'll let you down. Some people's feelings change by the minute... they make drugs for that.

    However, I do think you may be selling some short in that they have witnessed the ridiculously slow court systems by which crimes like this are tried. "Thinking people" are trying to come up with a punishment so severe that it will cause future nut jobs to reconsider their actions before acting in such a way. Today's criminals spend decades "writing books and smiling on tv." (Hank Williams Jr... If the South would have won.)

    The ancient Romans would leave the corpses of crucified crimnals hanging on the edge of the city as a warning to anyone thinking of committing a crime against them. It worked pretty well.
     
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    You would be wrong. Not everybody views suffering as you do. For some, life in prison is a step up from the conditions they existed in. Some in prison (with its shelter, meals and consistency) don’t want to leave and some will break the law as soon as they can so they can get put back in. You make the mistake of applying what makes you tick to everybody else. Death however is the same for us all and in the case of the penal system keeps the dead person from doing any more harm to those of us on the outside.


    :lol: :lol: if by “penile” system you mean male rape as you used the word associated with a penis, then perhaps yes but I think you meant to type “Penal” (as in penalty) But back to your point, we don’t lock them up to make them suffer, we lock them up to keep them from us. The bars and gates and wire keep us safe and are not meant to make them sad or unhappy.

    :lol: at “penile”
     
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    Give him a pass; in prison the terms can be used interchangeably.

    I have been around a lot of people as they die in a pastoral role and I can assure you it is not the same for everyone. During or after...
     

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