So, I spent half day Saturday tuning my rest and sighting in my sight at 20-60 yards with my son at a local public range. I got it tuned to where I am shooting 3" groups at 40 yards. Today, I decided to shoot at my bag at 20 yards in my backyard for sheets and giggles. The first couple of shots where spot on. When I drew for the third shot I realized that my kisser is missing, AAAARRRGH!!! I tried shooting without it and I was all over the place. Three questions: 1. Should I leave it off and learn to shoot without it? I feel like it has become a crutch and a potential issue that I may have to deal with if I loose it again on a tree stand. 2. How many of you guys use a kisser anyway? 3. If I get my shop to reinstall it, would it mess with the work I did on the range? How much would it off set my zero? Any input would be great guys. Thanks.
IMO you should shoot without it.Try to learn to shoot with out it and practice good, repeatable form. You will be better off in the long run. As far as re-installing it and messing things up, it should not affect anything as long as it gets put back in the EXACT same spot. If it ends up being put bak on in a slightly different spot then you will anchor in a different spot therefore your point of impact will be slightly different.
i have never used one.. but if you are used to it and are shooting good, i'd obviously get another one and retune your bow if you're off
I serve in a kisser button, its the same process as serving in nock sets. Its smaller that a kisser and if done right will never come off or move.
They have their benefit if you have anchor point issues. I use one, but mine is a small piece of rubber peep tubing tied to the string then trimmed so there's no tag ends. Best kisser I've ever had.
Putting it back on should not affect your shooting if you put it back as before. If you are shooting the groups you describe, I wouldn't change anything. Do you use a peep also? As far as having it put on, there's no reason why you can't do that yourself. Google it. I prefer my kisser to touch the tip of my nose.
Since the kisser button, fell off I do not have any reference point to know where the original kisser was before. I went ahead and had my local pro shop install one for $3 and will just have to go back to the range to confirm my shots. I can tell that it is not where it was before, because every shot I make now hurts my lip. I am going to look into taking it off after the season, Jan 31 here in MD, and learn to shoot my bow without it during the off season. I don't want to change things up now since I was hoping to get a hunt or two in this year. It's a nice little tool to learn on, but I need to take the next level and learn to shot without it.
I read something on the Internet the other night about installing a kisser and the guy said he installed the kisser so the split is on the other side from where it touches the mouth. He said that this takes care of interfering with the mustache or the lip. Just thought I would mention this in case this is your problem. I just installed a dental floss kisser on a new bow yesterday and it seems to be working fine. I don’t know how it will work when I wear a mask. I haven't been shooting that long but have used a kisser since I first started. If I didn't have the kisser now, I would probably go all to pieces psychologically and never be able to shoot right again. :D I read the other night about a guy that uses two pieces of string served on his bow that he uses as a peep. It looked like it had some advantages – doesn’t have to twist just right and good in low light. Does anybody else do this??
After i have my set up and bow tuned and shoot it for a while i have my wife mark my shooting string where i'm comortable with a sharpie at the corner of my mouth and i use serving and sereve my own kisser man made kisser , it never comes off and dont rob any speed .
They are simple to install. You shouldn't have a problem with it. As far as if you should, that all depends on you. If you like shooting with one then put another on there. I shoot one on all of my bows. I like them. They aren't a crutch or anything like that. They are a tool the enhance your shooting. They aren't any different than a peep, loop, release, sights... whatever. If you want to talk about something being a crutch, then all of the stuff we use now are a crutch. Instinctive shooting a traditional bow is what you have without all of the new toys we shoot. That is my $.02 worth though. :p
The kisser button split is on the proper side away from my face/lip. I suspect it is a little low than the original location. It is frustrating to loose that sweet spot I had it on before.
I am curious where your anchor point is. That should not have changed. For just a moment, close your eyes while drawn, and settle in to where you are comfy then have your wife slide the un-served kisser to where it feels correct, then tie it in. I bet you'll be dead on where you were. As far as shooting without it... Give it a try but make sure you try it from your tree stand also. Our form tends to change as a bow is rotated down and our lline of sight changes sometimes in relation to our sight pins. Having a reference to stay properly anchored really helps.
For shooting in the back yard or at the range, a kisser isn't a needed item IMHO. It's not needed to hunt with either, if you're disciplined enough to keep good form. However, I don't know about you, but I find it hard to keep world class form on a little aluminum platform, 20ft up a tree bending down to shoot a deer. In this case, another reference point can't hurt and will likely be beneficial. I don't use a standard kisser button. Never liked crimping anything on my strings. I tie in a BIG nock set with serving thread until I have a small ball on the string that comes in contact with the tip of my nose. The end of your nose is very sensitive and you can feel it quickly. It also works well if you're a facemask guy because usually your nose is hanging out. I always found a standard kisser difficult to feel through a facemask.
Ditto on going "Eskimo Style!" The kisser on the nose gives an exact reference and avoids ripping your lip.
Your RIGHT! It is a crutch! I use to use one. So,let me ask you this. Have you hunted with a few head coverings on in the intense cold? I have when I used a kisser. I couldn't feel it and at times I looked to see to place it by my mouth. You're MUCH better off instinctively finding your anchor point. You'll know you have your anchor point no matter how many hat's or face coverings you're wearing. Also, it slows your FPS. Keep it off.
As far as re-installing it and playing elements up, it should not effect anything provided that it gets put rear again in the EXACT same position. If it comes to an end up being put bak on in a a little bit different position then you will core in a different position therefore your factor of effect will be a little bit different.
