I do not think that any of the guys or gals posting on this thread are arguing. I think it is a discussion amongst hunters expressing their opinions. Again, I am not opposed to crossbow hunting and like I said, I own one and take mine hunting. I also said that to each his/her own in the selection of which weapon they decide to hunt with. I am simply saying that I have witnessed more injured animals walking the woods and have witnessed conversations where people clearly do not comprehend the limitations of a crossbow and the responsibility to not only the animals they hunt but to the sport and fellow hunters as well. There was an individual arrested recently poaching a deer in the early hours one morning with a night vision scope on a crossbow. Not sure if there is a way to install night vision on a vertical but the point here is that there are "idiots" as someone in this thread called them, that can do stuff like this with a crossbow because they are more silent and have scopes. I also said that yes I think it most certainly is easier to hunt with a crossbow than it is to hunt with a vertical, be it traditional or compound. It is for this reason that I feel that there should be a designated season for crossbows. Again, and please understand, this is just my opinion.