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Creed Xs and 500 grain arrows

Discussion in 'Tech Talk' started by Beefie, Dec 3, 2013.

  1. Heckler

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    Please explain your logic behind this statement. Momentum is the product of mass and velocity of an object.

    So a Mac truck at 1 mph hits something has more momentum then a Chev. pickup at 75 mph? Please tell me it ain't so.... :)
     
  2. Nick_P

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    You need to sell your arrows for millions of dollars, sounds like they defy Physics! But really, KE=1/2(mass)(velocity squared). You cant argue with that calculation, its what determines all KE of any moving object on this planet... So yes there is a point where your arrow gets so heavy and your speed so slow that you do have less KE than with a faster lighter arrow... At the same poundage, with a tuned bow. However momentum is a different story, momentum is conserved longer with a heavier arrow resulting in more penetration. What you would look for in an "ideal" arrow is a good balance of both
     
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    Ahhhh, It's just a spread in Microsoft Office Excel 2013 with formulas. I didn't make this stuff up.

    It's just math/physics people! :p
     
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    Thats cool, im not good at all with Excel so i didnt even recognize it haha, thanks for sharing thats pretty cool
     
  5. Beefie

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    This statement would be ideal, good balance of both. The question is where do I start so I can get some numbers to start tweaking my setup ?

    Beefie
     
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    Your own chart showed it. 4ft/lbs of difference from a 350 grin arrow to a 550 grain arrow. Not much difference. KE is a exertion of energy on a target. Momentum in stored, potential energy. Penetration.

    Going by your chart, a 350 grain arrow and a 475 grain arrow exert nearly the same KE. I know your smarter than this, but you can't possibly believe that a 350 grain arrow will have the same penetration? I guess all of those arrow weight minimums for heavy game are a joke?

    By the way,... Your analogy, as cute as it was, was grossly exaggerated. Everybody knows a Chevy is not capable of those speeds!
     
  7. Beefie

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    Well Now I have a few combinations to play with. hoping after the holidays to get my arrow saw and a chrono to start figuring out combinations.

    Thanks for the help guys.

    Beefie
     

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