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Could this guy author a succesful book on buck hunting?

Discussion in 'Bowhunting Talk' started by virginiashadow, Jun 18, 2009.

  1. buckeye

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    I didn't take it as a nock or anything.... No hard feelings on it from me, just thought I'd throw down my opinion on his and my area is all.
     
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    So about "Pete" the hypothetical author....:d
     
  3. virginiashadow

    virginiashadow Legendary Woodsman

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    Hmmmmmm.......

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    I know of one guy in my county that has ever entered a buck in anything other than a local big buck contest.
    In the case of most of the guys I hunt with we don't hunt for atta boys or birth certificates. A couple text messages and some pictures shared with friends and were good!:confused:
     
  5. virginiashadow

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    The same percentage of the hunting population does the same throughout the country, so the map is accurate, proportionately.

    So lets say "Pete" is from South Florida.
     
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    Absolutely 100% true and what I was going to reply with,thanks for saving me some typing.
     
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    Although I agree with the premis of this post,mature trophy bucks and Boone and Crocket bucks are 2 different things.We usually associate the pope and young scale to "trophy" BOWKILLS.
     
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    This is as FAR from the truth as most hunters.. unfortunately.. believe.

    And I get to hunt and shed hunt Illinois.. so I do know a thing or two of what I'm talking about. (i hope):cry:

    What people don't realize.. is that a P&Y.. even a minimal 125" is much harder to come by than you can imagine.. MANY more deer will never hit that net minimum than will... and not like 60-40... like 85-15.. and much greater in states with lesser gene pools or simply.. smaller deer.. and even a difference of 3 miles can make the difference in what you're gonna be chasing.

    The Hanson buck is said to be 3.5 years... do you honestly believe this is "normal" for a buck.. you know.. to reach over 200" before age 4?

    Now.. of course.. you could hold out for a 150" buck because that's what you want.. and there is nothing wrong with that. But you could VERY EASILY be waiting a lifetime for something as minimal (to me) as a inconsistency in genetics. Cause that's what you're waiting for.. an anomaly.. something out of the ordinary.. and it doesn't make ANYONE a better hunter than another.. it just makes them more patient if anything.. but NEVER a better hunter. Antlers do NOT equal BIGGER brain on the bucks neck.

    I will agree with you 100% that there is a "good" whitetail near everyone. But NOT every year. Sometimes.. not every 5 years. You get the picture.

    Don't take this post the wrong way Bawana.. just tryin' to level the playing field when comparing genes with age.
     
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    I was going to post on the thread and give you a hard time jokingly but Instead I thought I better keep It private. You took one of my lines from a PM when we were having our little spat and posted It In your signature on here or HNI, can't remember which site It was but man did It piss me off at that time. Don't take this bad being I'm just giving you a hard time. Were all good but I thought I'd remind you of that and give you a hard time. :whip: Jeff deserves exactly what your giving him Bob, maybe one of these days he'll come back down to earth like the rest of us here. I think Jeff Is an alright guy but sometimes I have no Idea why he types the things he does. Keep this between me and you, I can't stand big mouths!!

    I do enjoy getting along with you much better then not getting along with you, you've got some great values Bob.;) Don't change a thing my friend.:tu:

    How was the party??:beer:

    Take care!!
     
  10. Cooter/MN

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    All areas of the country where whitetail are present can produce large racked bucks. If anyone wants to call me on that I will produce a link to their states list of record book entries to prove them wrong. Are there some states that produce more trophies than others? Of course there are. But that is just the way it is. Get over it. Every year I am involved in a Big buck archery contest in MN. Out of about 40-50 entrants their are usually only about 1 or 2 bucks killed with 125+ inches of antler. I think too many of you are watching the outdoor channel if you think it is easy to kill big bucks in the midwest. At my families farm we have killed many 3-4 year old bucks over the years which have racks only in the 90-115 inch range. I seems like many people just assume that a 3-4 year old buck in the Midwest is always some kind of stud. Nothing could be further from the truth from what I have experienced in 24 years of whitetail hunting around here. Bucks with big antlers are hard to find in all states...but it can be done if you are willing to put in the work.
     
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    I think that there are more trophy bucks than we will ever know. I feel that some areas lead to more opportunities to kill these bucks. Limited woodlands, high agricultural areas and posted land all make hunting these bucks harder in some areas than in others.
    As hunters it seems many over rate their skill levels, knowledge and abilities to get it done.
    But really how hard can it be? They are just deer,they eat sleep and reproduce. This book would be more of short story than a novel, right? :confused:
    How many of you know guys that couldn't track a hippo in a snow storm yet they still have that one monster buck on the wall.
    My hats off to the guy thats got more than that one.:beer:
     
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    But those damn Hippo's are so elusive!! :confused:
     
  13. Bawanajim

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    Its all about location. :hail:
     
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    I probably wouldn't read it. No offense, I just think there is to many books out there that
    beat a dead horse each time. Most of the books I've read say the same thing, just put in a
    different way. If your going to be successful in writing a book, I think you need touch on
    a subject that hasn't been covered....like Bowhunting Under a Full Moon.
     
  15. Cooter/MN

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    You are probably confusing MN with Wisconsin? MN isn't even close to being the P&Y leader but I have no complaints about my hunting area. My point is mainly that I don't believe there are any areas of the country where the top 5% of bucks killed would resemble the buck in the picture of this thread. Big bucks are killed in every state which holds whitetails. It is certainly easier in some areas than others (I'm sure if I hunted with the Drury's or Lakowski's I would have a much better chance than where I go)...but it can be done (and is done) pretty much anywhere deer are present.
     
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    With all the pressure a really big bucks get is it really any surprise how nocturnal they become?

    How many of you find shed horns from bucks that you never knew inhabited your woods? Then again how many monster sheds are never found because of where these bucks call home?

    While driving home from a hunt on the top end of my woods I almost hit a buck crossing the road that was a true brute,that was the first and last time I ever saw that buck.

    To tell you the truth most of us are not any where as good at this monster buck slaying as we would like to think.:confused:
     
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    I agree 100%...myself included
     

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