Could this guy author a succesful book on buck hunting?

That depends totally on whether "Pete" is literate or not. If you can't write then all the experience in the world does you no good.

 

We think alike Rob.

 

"Would Pete be qualified to write a book on succesful "mature" buck hunting?"


For me it depends on whether Pete has stumbled upon a really clever way to hunt mature bucks or if he has just found a dynamite spot to hunt. We all have "killing trees" that are just damn good spots. Really doesn't take any insight or novel ideas to make it happen, its just a good spot. Good spots don't translate to other properties as well as a novel idea does.

 

Good post DC--I agree completely.

 

I would say he is a good hunter but not a trophy hunter.May be a trophy hunter in your eyes though.

 

Why wouldn't he be considered a "trophy" hunter? He takes the top 5% of all bucks taken in his area every single year. He kills mature bucks every year.

 

You won't sell too many Playboy's with Roseanne on the cover. Yeah, some may consider her mature... but, uhh, nevermind.

 

If a hunter is consistently killing top end bucks in their hunting area.They are on to some thing and I would read what they write.I don't have to see pictures of big bucks to get me to buy a book.I purposely seek out less main stream authors all the time.
Once you have a decent collection of good books it is pretty hard to find some thing new and innovative.

 

Maybe I am misunderstanding here but I don't think I would read a book on how to consistantly kill 3 1/2 year old bucks. If the top 5% he is killing in his area were older bucks than that I might think differently.

Man...it would suck hunting somewhere where the top 5% bucks looked like the buck in that pic.

 

He consistenly kills mature bucks each year. I just used the picture as a representative buck, trying to show that the area he hunts has smaller racked bucks as compared to a lot of places. He sometimes kill 4.5+ year olds as well. But, he kills the top 5% of all bucks taken each year, consistently.

 

virginiashadow,

Tell us how he does it. Is a clever idea, does he just have a honey hole, or is he spending more time in a tree than 95% of other hunters? There are many ways to skin a cat. Is he killing them in the early season, rut, late season. Like my original post says, it depends entirely on HOW he is actually doing it, ie clever idea or niche. It matters.

 

DC---honestly "Pete" is a fictitious guy whose photo I found on the internet. I wanted him to be representative of a hunter that hunted in a place that had smaller than average mature bucks for whatever reason. I was watching a lot of my old hunting videos last week and began to realize all of the "experts" on mature buck hunting are generally guys that hunt and kill guess what...literally large racked bucks. Not the guys who hunt in Florida for example in some very tough environments, hunting smaller racked bucks and they kick ass year in and year out. Noone pays them any mind and most don't recognize them as "trophy" hunters or mature buck hunters because their bucks don't tape out at 150 inches or more.

For example, I like reading John Eberhart's books. Transplant John Eberhart to another area with smaller racked bucks and John would continue killing nice bucks because he has the skills to do so in most any environment. But John more than likely would have never been able to write a book about mature buck hunting and would have not been considered knowledgeable about mature buck hunting if the bucks he were taking over the years looked liked "Pete's" bucks. Or am I wrong?

 

Honestly I think the term "mature buck" is just an excuse used by those whom can't or won't close the deal on trophy deer.
Just like "trophy" bucks "mature" buck numbers vary with habitat,genetics & hunting pressure.Almost every state has trophy bucks some more, some less, but trust me they are there.Just cause you can't kill them doesn't mean they aren't there. WE all can't be "the man". If your shooting what makes you happy thats all that matters.But trust me there is a big difference in a "nice" buck and a monster buck and age ain't got a thing to do with it.
Case in point. How old was the "Hanson buck"?
How many times have you heard of some one killing a monster buck that they had never seen before they shot it?
Although most of us can teach our kids how to throw a football, chances are John Elway's kid is gonna throw it better.
I am not hunting for an old deer ,I'm hunting for trophy deer.Yep its all about the horns, But thats just me.

 

The first book I ever read about bowhunting was given to me as a gift and was written by Jim Dougherty (a famous bowhunter). I was just getting into bowhunting at the time so I was very green and had a lot to learn. In his book he said that he had never killed any whitetails that had qualified for P&Y. Did I think he was any less qualified as an authority on this subject? Absolutely not. He had killed many mature bucks (can’t remember where he did most of his hunting?) in his life but none of them had the bone to make book. I learned a lot from reading his book as he spoke of his vast life experiences as a bow hunter.

 

Amen... horn porn is where its at! I am to the point where I couldn't care less about antlers, but I also couldn't care less about age for that matter. I am set out to enjoy myself, if that means shooting a 3 point half rack.... well that deer is gonna have an arrow through him. This "mature buck" talk is getting old, everybody is becoming a arm chair biologist... they suddenly know what the best "age structure" is for their herd and they know exactly what needs to be done.... it gets under my skin. I was raised different I guess... I wasn't brought into hunting based on being a biologist, I was brought in to enjoy the family and friends that I hunted with as well as enjoying just spending time in the woods. I am not against QDM, but I am not, nor will I ever be for it if it degrades the hunting experience. I actually feel bad for the guy who has to (and does) shoot a 150" deer every year because thats the only way they get a kick out of hunting. I am just as thrilled to go pick a couple gray squirrels off with my .22 as I am to shoot a big buck.... call me crazy but its all about the experience, it has absolutely nothing to do with the animal!

 

Well you posted the quote.... so name the Author! It was Me. I said it after you belittled the 90" buck I shot in numerous PM's and the occasional post. (This from the guy who will congratulate any succesful hunter ) Because I live where 150's are behind every tree in NE OHIO :d . And of course you'll only post the part that makes you look good. I said your "Bull" was barely bigger, and we all followed the saga of THE BULL in posts for a year and a half. It did become a behind the scenes joke. But that was all said in the privacy of PM.

So what is private?? How much of our couple, 3 years of conversations do you wanna share? Hmmm?

I mean, I already know when you dissolve a friendship that those secrets quickly leak out, when they are to your advanatage.. I've seen it first hand!!

 

I have no agenda, there is nothing to gain. But I'm a counter puncher.

I don't save PM's to use against people, it's not my style.


EDIT>>> Well perhaps I do after all...:d

 

And you know why I said the quote that started this mess..

I'm done here..get in your parting shot. It's your MO.

I'm off to a party.. Cheers

 

The NE section of Ohio is far from one of the greatest big buck meccas in the country.... Is it decent? Yes, but far from great. A mere 2-3 hours south or Southwest will however get you into some pretty good areas for big bucks (due to a drastic change in topography and human population).

We do get some big bucks here in this part of the state, there is no doubt there as we have grown some absolute HAMMERS.... But, we lack the numbers here considerably in comparison to the Southern half of the state.

 

To answer the question...

I think that Double Creek has the best answer and I agree 100% with him.