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Condoms in Schools???

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  1. trial153

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    I like sex.
     
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    Good for those schools. They should be offered. Kids are going to have sex whether Daddy tells them not or not. I'd rather my daughter have her boyfriend use a condom if they are going to have sex. She might be too shy/embarrassed to ask me or to buy them from a store, so if she can get them free from school, I say great.

    In no way does giving out condoms at school "promote sex". That is absurd.
     
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    I understand both sides of the argument here... As a parent you don't want your child to drink, smoke, do drugs, or have sex at that age... The fact of the matter is that even the preachers daughter who has been taught correctly their entire life can mess up. You can teach your children the right way their entire life, but they might mess up because they're young and dumb.

    Would you rather have your daughter get pregnant at 16 because she made a mistake?


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    I agree with Hooker on that. Whether or not you have sex before marriage will depend on what you are taught at home and how it's taught. As I said, my mother taught me all about sex, yes all the details, (and marriage by the way) when I was eight. Lots of people are horrified by that. And that's part of the problem.
     
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    I'm not naive enough to think we can stop kids from having sex, but I am against the school system providing condoms or offering access to abortions without parental notification and approval. These children are not the schools responsibility to raise, and they should not have the right to make decisions for that child without the approval and knowledge of the parents. I have sign a permission slip of my kid is going on a field trip, so why the hell wouldn't I have to sign a permission slip if my child wants to get condoms from the school. We live in a seriously ****ed up society where parents expect others to raise their children, then when their kid screws up, it's the systems fault.

    Here's a question for all of you that support it, what happens when the condom breaks and the girl gets pregnant? Who should be held responsible, and liable? If the school is providing the equipment that failed to work, then they share in the responsibility of the outcome!

    I have an 11 year old daughter that is quickly turning into a young lady(way too quickly for me). She's getting to that age where we will need to start talking about sex and our expectations for her. It's not a conversion I'm looking forward to, but as a good parent, it's one that we must have. It's a conversation that our parents didn't really have with us, but we know we will need to have it with our daughter so she doesn't make the same stupid decision that we did.
     
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    Uh...the 2 that had sex? :lol:
     
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    Well, the schools provided them with equipment that would keep them from getting pregnant.......
     
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    Is the gas station down the street where they get them from held responsible?


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    Is the friend who gave his buddy a condom held responsible if the condom breaks?


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    I think both of your examples are completely different than the government entity charged with educating you child.
     
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    Nonsense.
     
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    Um...so what? Just because you can opt out doesn't mean the school has any business spending tax money for it from parents that don't desire it be "allowed". If this lifestyle choice can be allowed or supported at the schools, than I say a prayer or religious offering should be allowed and give parents the right to "opt out". That would be beat down faster than the ink could dry making it official. Twisted affairs and signals we send in this day and age.

    Heaven to betsy did it ever, I caught the tail end of it as I'm still of the younger side of things (28). You cannot teach morals or lifestyle choices outside of the home and especially not at middle/high schools...those things are inherently personal choices fostered out of parenting. <<<---ah the crux it all falls back to, sharpeyesam nails and touches on this!

    And some churches "preach" one thing but promote a completely different thing...but let's not bring up examples that would disprove this isn't a sign of at the very least acceptance of this behavior or dare we label it support.

    May 15, 2010. I was 24 years old and it was my wedding day. While I'd made mistakes and done things I wish I'd waited for that night, I am proud to say I made it till my wedding night...it was far from easy at times nor fun, but it was a decision I made and I cannot express the gratitude I have that my wife did the same thing.

    I don't sell youth short, or undersell their ability to make good choices. Working with youth for over 10 years now every week has continued to strengthen the idea that we undersell teenagers so much, they are simply a product of society's expectations for them. We expect them to drink...so they drink. We expect them to be idiots...so they are idiots. We expect them to not control their desires....so MTV has 16 and Pregnant. STOP SELLING THEM SHORT.

    I don't. I love it.
     
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    If you kid gets pregnant don't blame the condom.
     
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    Idk... In my eyes a condom is a condom no matter where they get it from. Maybe I'm being naive.


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    They'll blame the school...sad but true most likely.
     
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    Do you think the government entity is telling the kids that condoms are 100% effective?
     
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    What I find nonsense is that the school can't even give your child an asprine without your permission, yet they can give your child a condom without your permission.

    My issue is that it is not the schools job to RAISE your child, it's not their job to make moral decisions for your child. It's their job to provide them with an education. That's it, that's all. All the rest is a bunch of liberal BS.
     
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    I can profile the kids getting their condoms from school. Typically raised in daycare, the school takes over daycare when the kid is old enough to start. If the kid is from a 2 parent home both parents work, raising their kids are not the priority and they seldom sit down as a family for supper. Typically though the kids are from single parent homes, the dynamic from there is too complex to pin it down to one trigger but the outcome is very predictable. If your kid is more comfortable getting condoms from school vs discussing it with a parent the problem is not with the school but with the parent.
     
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    So I take you gave up on the litigious angle you had before and moved on.
    Ok what next?
     
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    a bit different, no?

    Not sure how providing condoms is raising a child or making moral decisions for your child.
     

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