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Condoms in Schools???

Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by Tony, Feb 19, 2015.

  1. MN_Jay

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    Again, there are plenty of times in this very thread where someone said that is not the place for schools to provide condoms.

    This is where I told you to go back and reread the thread. And I would still encourage you to do so since for whatever reason you don't recall these instances.




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    That's kind of my take on it.

    Another thought occurred to me. What about summer, and other, school vacations? Maybe they should leave the schools open during those times. Or the kids will have to be cramming their pockets (purses?) full of condoms on the last day.

    Do high school/middle school girls still carry purses or has the backpack replaced the purse?

    I don't get this idea that you can't do without sex and live. I'm not going to pretend I did without until I got married, but there was lots of time I went without (not willingly) and I didn't die.
     
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    You are so confused.....this whole thread is about schools not being allowed to pass them out....nowhere does it state what you previously claimed ....
     
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    No I get it. Your original post (as well as the article) stated the condoms were "made available". No where did it say they would seek kids out and force them on them.

    My post was directed at people such as yourself who were "at a loss" because condoms were "made available"

    I completely agree that people shouldn't be handing them out at will in the hallway.






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    Glad it only took 21 pages to get to the bottom of that... :dan:
     
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    We strongly urged abstinence to our boys and talked about it as a family often. That being said, we also left a box of condoms under the vanity of the boy's bathroom. To me, if they were going to have sex, I wanted to make sure they did not get some teenage girl pregnant. It would not have mattered to me if they got condoms at school or home. What mattered to us was that we did not have a teen pregnancy if one of our boys made a poor decision. In no way did we condone sex and that was made very clear. But, its pretty short sighted to expect teenagers to never falter from a plan of abstinence. The results without protection are just too severe. I don't think there is one parent here that would rather their child become a teenage parent rather than use protection. If it saves your teen from being a parent, does it really matter where the condom came from? The availability of the condom in no way encourages the action any more than the availability of a spotlight encourages poaching.
     
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    Maybe the conservation department should make spotlights available just in case a hunter decides they need to poach at night, but are too scared to go buy the light themselves.
     
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    We need to agree to disagree here...you made the choice as a parent....that's how it should be done...not the schools

    I wonder if you had daughters if you would have done the same tho...
     
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    If they did, would you poach?
     
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    Absolutely. Daughters can make mistakes just as easy as sons. I see no difference. A teen parent is a teen parent and next to abstinence, protection is the only safety net. Teen minds don't function the same as ours. They make a lot of mistakes. If one mistake can be prevented, why not? Not all parents are mature enough to have that conversation with a son or daughter. Not all kids are comfortable asking a parent. So, school seems the logical next step for the parents that fail to plan and the students that plan to not fail.
     
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    Well, it might make me think that it's not as frowned upon as I thought it was.
     
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    With all due respect, and I respect you a ton, you really don't know how you'd feel if you had daughters.

    To the other point, I don't believe having condoms in school change the frequency of safe sex happening by school kids...so I want schools, actually the government, to keep their crap where it belongs .... In the government
     
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    Is this an attempt at humor?
     
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    I would be fine with it if they asked. At the beginning of the year have the parents sign a waiver stating yes or no. If the parents can't provide for their children have them sign off as a yes. For those that do not want their kids to have access just check no.
     
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    I would have to say it is a good idea. They should, of course, lecture the child about not having sex at all. However, ignoring the problem does not make it go away. If they offer free condoms, the kids will take and hopefully use them. If they tell the parents that their child picked up condoms, the kid will probably NOT pick them up for fear of their parents finding out. I have no kids myself, but I do have a niece who is of the age where she is sexually active or seriously thinking about it. I have done my very best to convince her to wait, but if not, then ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS use a condom.

    My sister-in-law's daughter from her first marriage came to her at 13 and said she wanted to get birth control pills. Of course, my sister-in-law flipped out. She said no, and lectured her daughter for hours about not having sex. I told her flat out, if she is asking for pills, she is already doing it! Sister-in-law stuck to her guns so to speak and 4 months later, daughter is pregnant. Afterwards, daughter told mom that her and her boyfriend were having sex for months or a even a year before asking for pills.
     
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    No, not really.
     
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    No, it wouldn't. We both know that.
     
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    I am sure if we stop handing them out, HS kids will stop having sex:whip:

    I told my daughter what I wanted to be told. Sex can and will stop you from reaching your goals in life, regardless if your a girl or boy. I am not naive enough to think it won't happen, hell I did it, but the reason's I did was more about being told "not to do it". Both my Grandparents got married because they were with child. My daughter knows I have an open door policy, no judgments, just come talk to dad. In college I had a one night stand with a girl in a relationship, she got pregnant and it was her boyfriends at the time, but that 9 months almost destroyed me. I want from 170 lbs to 135.

    FYI I got the condom from college hand-out.
     
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    We are talking about unwanted pregnancy. Son or daughter being the guilty party really makes no difference. Teen pregnancy is the issue. I am no fan of the government in my business in any way shape or form. Believe me, I have seen first hand the ignorance involved in the Affordable Care Act. But, a free condom may in fact change the frequency of safe sex. In my opinion, it is entirely possible to have very conservative and moral convictions while also accepting the fact that some things are beyond our daily watch and control. I would rather a child took a free condom from a school than a free trip to planned parenthood for something much more sinister.
     

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