Colorado wildfires

This is some scary stuff that is happening out there. Don't know about you guys but I am sending my prayers and thoughts to all those involved.

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I was going to head out there this week but decided against it. I feel for all those people I hope it is out soon

 

There about 20 firefighters from my state out there helping. Hope they put the fires out soon.

 

These massive fires usually happen after years of unabated forest growth. It is a natural cycle (remember Dan's thread about cycles in nature) in the growth of a forest.

Usually the lightning triggers the fires, but the local experts think these may have been human-caused.

Either way, the forest always goes through burn periods, where the overgrowth is cleared and the soil is enriched, and areas are then available for graze for the ungulates.

"Let It Burn" is the philosophy I believe in regarding this cycle of forest turnover.

It is ironic that more logging would actually indeed help to preserve the forests by clearing areas and building fire breaks.

The greenies who don't want any logging are inadvertently crontributing to the demise of the forest, in the short term, as these hugh fires are then fueled by the accumulation of undergrowth.

At any rate, forest fires are a natural recurring event in the cycle of forest growth.

No sense in crying over something that is natural and cyclical in nature.

 

I agree forest fires in the right place is a good thing. This fire is in Colorado springs right now with entire neighborhoods being burned. That's not excatly a cycle of the forest.

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Wow!

 

"Let it burn" Huh? Would you be saying that if it was your house turning into a pile of charred timber? Next time think before you put your foot in your mouth.

 

Building vacation homes in forest areas is a completely different issue.

First, it is foolishness to do so.

Second, if you are going to do it, then you need a wide firebreak around the house.

 

Same issue with building in flood zones.

Same issue with building on fault lines.

Same issue with the entire state of Florida, which is entirely in a hurricane highway.

Forests = fires.

Always have. Always will.

 

They must have cut their funding for clearing then and slacked off on their clearing duties.

The same thing happened in Oakland Calif in 1991.

Practically entire neighborhoods burnt to the ground in one huge fire that was just waiting to happen.

Cleared out the brush nicely though.

Afterwards, wood sheikh roofs were then outlawed, since the combination of the growth of underbrush and the wood sheikh roofs were blamed for the cause.

The cause was forest = fire.

No wood = no fires.

 

Several years ago, I was hiking and hunting the King Range Wilderness in the far northwestern coastal California. I had a camp set up by my jeep, down a forest road that was a dead end, so a perfect spot for a camp. From my camp, I hiked-in with a day pack along a large game trail.

To hike back out, I followed a rocky stream bed, which led back to the road, and then I came upon 3 young fellows who were also hunting. We stopped to chat and compare notes, and during the conversation one of them mentioned that this place was so thick with undergrowth that it really needed a big fire. We all agreed that was the truth.

It was Sunday afternoon, so when I got back to my camp, I packed up and headed back home.

That evening on the local news I heard that a major fire had broken out in the very area that we had been hunting, and I guessed that the 3 guys went ahead with their plan.

 

Shoobee didn't you post in another thread that you are in California?
fault lines, ocean, forests
Should we applaud it if your families home is destroyed by any type of a disaster?
Every post i have read of yours makes wonder why you have even signed up on this site


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After the fires blow through, there are usually several homes left standing.

These belonged to the people who have upgraded their roofs to fireproof ones, and who have cleared the brush around their properties.

That's what the interviews after the Oakland wildfires revealed.

 

The debates here are sometimes interesting.

There has not been much news on bowhunting.

With bowhunting, you get great equipment, and you practice practice practice.

Speaking of which, that is what I will be doing later this afternoon when things have cooled off a bit.

Here in Cali since the last big quakes, most people now check out the fault line maps, before they put their life's mortgage on a house.

We also have wildfire risks. Same as anywhere else in the West.

I just do not see crying over something that was foreseeable or preventable.

Quakes are not preventable, but building on top of one is avoidable.

Forest fires are not preventable, but clearning the brush around your homes and upgrading to fireproof roofs are a really good idea.

It is truly unfortunate that most of New Orleans was destroyed by Katrina in a 1000 year storm. That is truly sad. But you cannot prevent hurricanes from devastating anyplace along the Gulf Coast.

It is also truly unfortunate that a dozen or so rabid fundamentalist mooselims were able to burn down two towers in NYC and kill 3000 people there. But most of Al Qaeda is dead now, and Obama got Osama, finally, not getting distracted in Iraq.

There is a big different between a real tragedy versus a natural cyclical event.

 

You know what - I left the forum and wasn't going to respond because I was just blown away (literally and figuratively) by some of the discussion taking place here. Look, "cycle" or no "cycle" we are talking about peoples lives here. We are talking about homes (the value of them matters not) that have been completely destroyed. They can't get back some of the memories that have probably been lost in these fires. People work hard to raise families in these homes and now all that is gone.

All this "cycle" bull **** we are talking about REAL LIFE here and REAL PEOPLE who are being affected. Can't we just send our best out to those who have been affected and send our prayers out to those who are fighting the fires that they stay safe and some how end this vicious "cycle". The weather has been absolutely crazy this year and some of your responses show very little empathy for the situation.

 

I dont cry about mother nature and her natural cycles.

 

There is only one person here saying something as ridiculous as natures cycle that's shoobee.
To I guess ask of the people that were list to the tornados in the south during the worst tornado season in history should have known better. I'm sorry but this guy is a complete moron

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Terrible stuff! There were some forest fires in my hometown a couple months back that they believe were started by arsonists. Can't help to think about the defenseless critters and residents.

 

The fire in the Waldo/Co Springs area is only a few miles south of my dads place. Starting to get a little scary. Some of the comments on this thread are ridiculous!

 

There is not much you can do in tornado alley about tornadoes, other than build a tornado shelter, which is like a bomb shelter, where you wait out the storm.

From that point on you live your life like a lottery, and if the tornado lottery comes up for you, oh well you lose.

I would definitely invest in tornado insurance, which spreads the cost over the subscribers.

Everyone knows what Mother Nature is. She is not a sweetheart.