it comes from me. Trust me I know. I pay my own wages with tax money guarding the inmates that don't pay taxes.
Better counselors, again no problem with doing that. That still isn't going to solve the problem for everybody. As for training there is work to be done that doesn't really need training that can be done for the first month or so while they get trained. This type of idea was used in the Navy for sailors between schools and commands. They used us to help in the Mess Hall, perform maintenance around the base like sweeping sidewalks, cutting grass and trimming bushes. Cleaning buildings.
I agree with much of that. But just looking at the reality today. Kids are being strapped with huge amounts of debt. Even if that is a result of poor decisions. While I surely don't agree with debt forgiveness. Working it off if they choose would be better in the long run than just leaving them strapped with the debt for 5-10 years or more.
In this day and age if you have a government program it automatically comes with training just for the fact people are sue happy and if you send them in to a disaster zone without the proper training and someone gets hurt that is a dream come true for any 2 bit lawyer. I don't know the specifics of the Navy plan but if they were employed by the Navy at some point they were trained on Naval Base procedure.
Doing what I do for a living, Corrections Sergeant at my local county jail, I would have reservations with anyone not familiar with inmates working next to them. Inmates are VERY good at manipulating people. Every staff member at our facility has to go through 4 hours of training a year per our state requirements. I will also unfortunately say we've had staff members manipulated and compromised in the past to do a number of things. As I said before I like the idea in general and would encourage a program to help graduates work to pay their tuition. I'm for any program offering to teach an honest days work for an honest days pay. I'm just not sure if the fire / disaster is a good choice without vetting it a lot more. I initially thought of the crews actually near the fire but road block, evacuations, food and water supply would be a good idea and alternative not putting them in harms way and helping. The idea in general could have any number of jobs plugged in and some may be more worth while than others.
The reality is that your not going to get many of these pampered kids to do manual labor if they are holding a college degree. It will be below them, you can guarantee that. Every kid thinks they are special, they have never been told any different. They can't get a job out of college because they aren't willing to take a job they feel is below them, or they show up to their professional interview in a pair of skinny jeans. We need to fix parenting and everything else will fix itself.
Do we want to wait a generation to fix parenting? I would never expect millions of volunteers, but I wouldn't be surprised to get thousands. Do think it is a better option than doing nothing or especially better than forgiving the debt.
We already have a 60 yr old program that pays for pretty much all of it. And anyone that's willing to work hard and sacrifice can qualify for it. They call it the GI Bill.
But Matt that would require these people to think ahead! I would really hate to have them tax their brains that hard.
There's no reason to forgive the debt. If they borrowed the money, they should be responsible for paying it back and I think we both agree on that. I'm not even opposed to some type of program that they can use to help pay it back. I just don't think that's what they all want. They think they shouldn't be responsible to pay their debts because their degree didn't automatically get them a job in the top 20th percentile. Taking care of your personal responsibilities is what differentiates a child from an adult. By the time they graduate college at 22 or so, they should be an adult and handling situations as an adult.
Bottom line. Nothing is guaranteed. Nothing should be expected. You go to college and can't find a job when you get out, that is on you.
Better yet, due to most of your ignorant and absurd posts, lets tell and influence OUR children, grandchildren, and those of the next generation not to go to college...let's not better ourselves, our community, ultimately, our country because they're going to be in debt and tax payers have to pick up their slack...under the assumption that they're/I am not going to pay it back. Because you do construction, landscaping, etc...made it on a community college associates degree, there is no sense in degrading those that attend and graduate from universities leaving with debt, myself included. I didn't have to go to college..but I did. "I don't want you to have to work as hard as I do," - my dad. In no way am I saying or suggesting that college should be free, by any means, and as Virginiashadow said, "You go to college and can't find a job when you get out, that is on you." But why are we limiting those that have the ability to better themselves? I quit reading the comments after such ridiculous replies – “Not every child should go to college," Skywalker. "How about they just go to community college if they can't afford an expensive university,” Spear. “Why am I involved with a police officer’s retirement,” Frenchbritt123.
Dude, seriously??? In no way am I saying you shouldn't go to college if you are college material, but on the other hand you also have to make an informed decision. Don't go to a major university, drop a quarter of a million dollars on an education degree that pays $35,000 a year. Then complain about having too much student debt. Not every kid out there is college material and if you believe they are then you are delusional. College should be difficult, and we shouldn't be giving away participation ribbons to kids that go to college. If you can't do the course work that is required, you should fail. It shouldn't be dumbed down to the lowest common denominator like our public school system has been. That is why we are falling behind other countries in education. There are hundreds of thousands of skilled labor jobs out there that pay just as well if not better than jobs that require a college degree. There are lots and lots of kids that can enter those skilled trades and be miles ahead of those that choose to get a college education. You should really look up Mike Rowe and Mike Rowe Works Profoundly Disconnected
