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Clinic counselor tapes her own abortion.

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  1. tfox

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    This shows how screwed up the adoption laws are in this country.

    It's easier and cheaper to adopt a child from china than feom here. This does need to change.

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  2. Hooker

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    Ugh...I agree with you that the "cells on Mars" point is stupid :lol:
     
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    Well said.
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    it sounds more like you can't see how terrible the analogy was. I have no more of an ax to grind than anymore of you. I guess if you define cells as intelligent life, you can go ahead and think that.
     
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    This is logical error or limiting the facts. How many of those 104000 children are new babies? Statistically, the vast majority of parents want to adopt a new baby as opposed to a child.
     
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    Finally! man that stupid picture whoever posted up has caused me a lot of headache.
     
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    Yup. That was not all inclusive. Have you tried to Google this? I figured numbers and stats would be rampant but I couldn't find it. Then again you can't fault me too much since your stats were from 1988
     
  8. tfox

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    Your talking about a tumor, not me, im talking about a human life form and how important it is not to kill it.

    Has nothing to do with a tumor.

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    It is kinda innate and natural for a species to protect their young. You know...survival of the species and all that.

    Now it's true that we could probably lose millions of humans and still survive, but it is still ingrained within us to protect within the species.
     
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    After your previous comment. I'm I'm going to say that you did mean this in a demeaning manner. I hope God will forgive you for for your arrogance.
     
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    His point was scientist are scanning the universe for any other form of life to prove that everything came from nothing. That was his point and you missed it and went off on another direction.
     
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    No problem, I submit you will have 100% agreement on the above, IF the caveat the baby can be adopted. Don't you think there are a lot of children born of parents to lazy to get an abortion, just the one's you (and I) want to avoid? Do you not think some portion of these situations are created by the idea of an easy out, that the laziness of the individual prohibits? How many of these babies are born who would not have been if the parents would have understood sex has consequences?
     
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    Even billions hooker. Millions is nothing. I think the common argument is that we have souls and capable of higher thinking. Personally I believe we should take precedence but every living being should be treated with care. I've seen a lot of people abuse animals and I find that sick.
     
  14. Afflicted

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    My intention was not to be demeaning at all and I apologize if I came off that way.
     
  15. tfox

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    And the fact the pro choicers claim it isn't a life until viable life(roughly 20 weeks), but scientifically, this is a false argument because science would recognize it as life under certain circumstances.

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    You're going to have to set me back on track. Who the hell posted up that stupid picture to distract me???

    Anyways tfox I think you stated that you believe life is upon conception? If that is the case then I won't try to argue you against it because obviously I won't be successful. But to me it's when the heart starts beating. Before that it's a mass of cells to me.
     
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    "Quote Originally Posted by uncljohn View Post
    talk about brainwashing....

    based on world population demographics, countries that have a lower birth rate have higher standards of living.

    Fact is you all would be happier if this girl was in an alley with a rusty coathanger. As stated above, none of you know her situation. You're making assumptions. Like assuming other people want to live in a world dictated by YOUR faith and not mine."
    Inflammatory rhetoric!!! No one wants rusty coat hangers, just clean ones...ok, that was tasteless... I believe this woman is in more than educated enough to understand that sex can lead to a baby. I know she understands the concept of birth control at least. she just thinks adoption is just birth control.
     
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    Yes we are different in to many way to point out and the animals are here for us not the other way around.
     
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    Yes. If the adoption system wasn't broken I'd say outlaw abortion. But with what I perceive the as a broken system and probably terrible childhood an d possibly adult life, I think it's better to not bring the child in at all.
     
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    It is life in a different context tfox.
     

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