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Clinic counselor tapes her own abortion.

Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by Afflicted, May 7, 2014.

  1. Hooker

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    ok...

    what?

    Now I'm lost.
     
  2. chopayne

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    It's condescending remarks like this that throws me off religion. No offense and I know you didn't mean it this way but you think you're a better person than me because you have God. I must have terrible morals because I don't believe in god. You should also understand that there are Christians who believe in abortion and god aborted races in the ot.
     
  3. Zedd

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    Yer turn. How many kids are waiting for adoption per parents looking to adopt? I don't know an answer besides the one I gave. Apparently there ARE more parents looking to adopt than babies waiting. No offense is intended, but this is especially true for white children as compared to children of other races.
     
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    What are you talking about???? If scientists found cells on Mars they would be self sustaining. What are you talking about?
     
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    You claimed the difference to be self sustaining.

    Each in their own environment can self sustain. Taken out they would die.
     
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    Tumors are not human:eek:

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  7. Afflicted

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    Agreed and especially at age 25. I just think this girls mind is really warped from seeing women coming in 40 hours a week killing their unborn children and then her job is to make them feel good about what they've done. Really warped
     
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    Yes, and the adoption process needs reform.

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  9. Zedd

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    Now I've been with you to this point. Again, read what I said, "This is not an attack, I am just curious...". I mean that literally. I have no notion about you, only what you have said. You did not indicate to me other than you are 'pro choice', and I take you for your word. I do not assume you have 'lower moral standards' than I, just different ones. You must know that folks such as this woman ARE so invested in abortion rights they do not accept the notion of other solutions.
     
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    Yeah...I get that. The difference is that the embryo will eventually grow to be able to self sustain. The tumor will never be able to do that.

    I'm really kinda apathetic towards abortion. I could never do it. I'm not capable of doing it, especially after witnessing the process of my daughter being born. But I know we all function differently and are capable of rationalizing all kinds of things. Like how some on here are completely fine with the execution of teenagers if they break into your home.
     
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    http://adoptuskids.org/meet-the-children

    There are 104,000 kids waiting to be adopted and 250,000 who enter each year. Children wait on average 3 years to be adopted and about 29000 leave the system each year without being adopted age 21.

    Not quite sure how this data shod be interpreted.
    http://blog.childtrends.org/2011/05/31/waiting-to-be-adopted/
     
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    neither are the cells on mars. Get where i am going?
     
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    True

    Totally true...the future will be bleak for those inheriting our mistakes...

    T


     
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    man, that's rough! lol
     
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    Zedd. Sorry if I write angrily. I know none of you mean I'll Intent and know that I do not either. I'd don't think many of you realize that I'm mostly with you taking the chance on having a baby if you're ready and not something to be taken lightly. I just think that the option should be there even though there is room for abuse.
     
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    No I don't. If we found the zygote on mars, it would be a human life form.

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    Ugh. You're neglecting mars. Cells on Mars won't turn into embryo either. That's the only reason I brought up the tumor argument to say the analogy on cells on Mars is a terrible analogy to define "life" in pregnancy
     
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    Your stretching it Chopayne and really demeaning to intelligent life. Sounds like you have an ax to grind with some personal stuff. Just what I'm hearing.
     
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    Interesting that "hunters" are so opposed to "murder"... should we placing human lives so much higher than other life forms? Do we not totally rely on these life forms be it a deer or a rice plant? That is a very anthopocentric, short sighted view point that has lead to, and continues to lead to, a bleak future for all life on earth. Earth will be fine without human intervention... it existed for billions of years prior to humans and it will likely last in some form long after we are gone... Life on earth would probably be better without us!

    T
     
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    Tfox. I don't even know what you're saying. A tumor is a tumor. Cells on Mars are cells on Mars that won't become an embryo. We can't define life on Mars the same as life of an embryo.
     

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