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Clinic counselor tapes her own abortion.

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  1. Afflicted

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    I see kids wanting to stay kid to long these days and so when a 25 year old girl say she's off'ing her unborn child because she's not ready to except the responsibility of her actions it blows my mind. What did the person inside of her so wrong?
     
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    Not her, her parents. My ex wife was never about accepting responsibility for her actions and all about blaming other things. It killed me to no end, combine that with bad financial habits, it was a big heartburn during the 5 years. I could tell from meeting her mom that she got those habits from her.

    I still wanted to make it work in the end, but it was her who made the decision to divorce me. I know you're against divorce, im not sure I personally was, but I knew I didn't want it because I knew my parents didn't want it and I come from a conservative family. Also I felt like there was shame in divorcing, I still do! People who knew us when we were married, I hate meeting up with them to talk with them. I actually avoid meeting many of them.

    To tie this back to abortion, I dont think there is as much shame in having abortions or the stigma. So people take it alot lighter than before. I dont think the shame should be astronomical or so much that it stops the person from having the abortion if thats what they want, but I think it's worth a serious discussion. Parents also don't teach as much about accepting responsibility for ones action. But it all comes down to simply using protection or abstinence.
     
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    Don't give in so easy. If you don't stand for something you'll fall for anything.
     
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    Well said and sorry to hear about your divorce. Im also divorced from my first wife after 2.5 years that was mutual. She just didn't want to grow up. Going on 20 years with 2nd wife which almost ended in divorce 5 years ago but we decided to put Christ in our marriage to see if that could save it and now we get along fantastic and it's better than I ever thought a marriage could be.
    True story so I'm not as versed on the Bible as many others here but he's changed our lives and I'm just always trying to help others if I can.
     
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    I cannot relate to the marriage aspects that you guys talk about, but I do know that God has worked wonders in my life already and I have only been actively seeking him for a few months now. I just want to help as many people feel like me as possible.
     
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    You know towards the end I wasn't in love with her and wasn't attracted to her. I did love her though.

    So several questions arise from that, god is obviously against divorce, why would he want me to stay in a marriage where I was not in love with the person? I was willing to, but she was not among other things. I know that we should stop from indulging in our earthly pleasure because there is eternal life in heaven but what is the point of preserving marriages if both sides aren't happy? Doesn't make sense to me. I still don't believe In divorce and both sides should do everything to make things work.

    Furthermore he does not believe in divorce, yet he allowed this to happen? Why would he allow something to happen he condemns?
     
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    You are totally confusing religion with faith. Organized religion is not faith in god. Sure they believe in god, and they teach gods word, but they are people and people are flawed. Many leaders of religion are their because of their own personal goals, not the goals of god. Faith is individual. You do not have to have religion to have faith.

    What people have done in the name of god, as you put it, is not gods will. It's what some people have said is gods will. You have to be able to separate faith from religion.
     
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    Last question I believe Devo answered it best "Freedom of Choice".

    God see the big picture and want us to work through hardship to make us stronger and to trust in him.

    If you loved each other once and had all your friends and family come together to witness your union what went wrong? That's what you work out. Not working out what she did wrong but what YOU do or do wrong. If you still like women and plan to get married again you don't want to end up in divorce again. Kind of like "if you always do what you've always done then you'll always get what you've always got.

    This what I did with my wife before I went down the road again become a two time looser.
    I decided to take responsibility for my household and be a leader to my wife and put Christ above all and take her off the pedestal I had her on. I honestly thought we would still get a divorce but I was just practicing on her to be a better man for my next wife and see how that looked. What I found was that by me becoming a better husband she became a better wife and that is from holding myself accountable to our Lord and Savior and not living life on my own understanding.
    Hope that makes sense.

    But I do wonder if my first marriage would've worked better had I had I given my life to Christ back then.
     

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