Ok...let me preface this with the fact that I'm totally not a psychopath asking you to murder all of your kids... ...but if the end goal for any parent or Christian is for your child's soul to go to Heaven, would it almost be commendable for you to damn yourself in order to guarantee a spot in heaven for your child? People commend others for giving their life in order to save another, why would we not commend them for giving up their soul for saving another? Just trying to think this out.
But if raised by the Bible, both can go to heaven. Your soul's salvation shouldn't be meddled with. I see what you are saying but it doesn't match the teaching of the Bible. God wants us to raise our children and lead them to Him so they can continue leading others, their own families included.
Second that. You would be risking your salvation and I don't know how God views that. I wouldn't think He would think fondly of abortion so that the child automatically goes to heaven. He may see that as you trying to decide their fate instead of Him. I don't know these things for sure or have any proof just some ideas Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
This is why I can discuss stuff with you... great question! Children are a blessing and Jesus threatens those that harm them that tit would have been better that they weren't born. There is also the "thou shalt not murder" thing
Many believe that it is not the child's fault of their parents never baptize them to remove their original sin Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
You are just as hard headed in the way you think ... you just stated that no one has ever changed your mind ...
Hmm well I guess I am thinking about when the baby is washed from their original sin Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Just trying to see what everyone thinks. So whats the verdict on "thou shalt not kill" when someone is raped and has an abortion? Say a 17 year old high schooler gets raped and gets pregnant... Does she still need to go through 9 months of pregnancy that she had NO control over and did not want?
I would not say she "has" to. I think God either wanted this to happen or let it happen for some unknown reason. It's a good question. I would leave rape and life of the mother open to options for abortion I think. Those cases only make up 1.6% of abortions each year though I think Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
The thing about this, is how is it justified with the bible? If thou shalt not murder, then there can't be exceptions. Also, say abortion were outlawed, would society be accepting of this one exception? I think not, the pressure would be on the woman to keep it regardless of what she wants.
It's a good question. I don't know the bible's stance on this situation. I could ask a missionary that I'm going to lunch with and see what he says. The bible also says do not commit adultery so who knows? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Yes, we are all born sinners, but that doesn't negate that their soul has to reach accountability before God will require them to seek His salvation. It's not a contradiction, it's situational rather. These are God's rules, which are outlined in the Bible, not mine. EDIT: Sorry, I had the wrong quote. Fixed it. For the rape/abortion question, I have no answers other than the same rules apply. It would be an extremely difficult thing and I'm not trying to understand or give reason to why things happen in life except that it's God's test. Those who endure the difficult things in life are being tested of their salvation similar to how the disciples were tested about their faith. (Peter denying Jesus 3 times, etc).
The media uses stories like this to opinionate and polarize us into factions and groups. Don't believe the hype, this is one more hot topic used to divide and conquer us. It's smoke and mirror politricks........
