I would say your welcome, but you still dont get it! It's not about the vote, it's about them not showing up to be sworn in for no reason. It's not like it's not a big deal, well maybe to you it's not.
All these lefties are going crazy over this while they seem perfectly content with Obamacare unconstitutionally forcing people to purchase healthcare or pay a fine. Hmmmm
But you gotta understand their (liberal) mindset. We (conservatives) just arent smart enough to know what we need and they are here to save us all from ourselves. They know what is best and all it is going to take is for the rich to pay some more taxes. After all, they probably didnt have to work very hard for that money. And even if they did, its only fair to give half or more of it to those that choose not to work. Nobody deserves to be poor right. Never-mind the fact that the top 10% of earners pay 68% of all taxes and the bottom 50% pay only THREE PERCENT of all income taxes. You can find these figures on the IRS website. It still just isnt enough. Afterall, Obamacare only created a little over 300 more government agencies to administer the program. That surely wont cost much right? Its got to save us a bundle. And, there surely wont be any waste, fraud, and abuse associated with any of these government agencies. They have a great track record, right? This may be just the ticket we have all been waiting for. Just think about how much time we can spend in the woods when we dont have to work and our healthcare is free. Please dont tell the rich people, somebody has to keep the lights on.
Unfortunately, the people will pay dearly for what politicians are inflicting on the American people. A book written by G. Edward Griffin, The Creature from Jekyll Island will shed a lot of light on who the real puppet masters are. And no this is NOT another conspiracy theory book. It explains the origins and workings of the FED.
I was with you when we were blaming ALL politicians but this is just "partisan whining". Take the time to look up "corporate welafare" in the form of Agriculture, dairy, sugar, etc. subsidies. While you are at it look at the sweetheart deals we give to timber companys, mining interests and cattle interests (grazing rights). Do a little addition and tell how much you come up with. After that let me know if it is conservatives or liberals filling that particular money pot. It's very easy to rail against liberals or conservatives depending on your mindset but, in reality, politicians of either stripe are handing out your money to special interests that do not really benefit you but do help the politicians with their campaign finances. As long as we, the people, stay devided into our respective political tribes this BS will keep happening and the politicians, and special interests they represent (no, they don't represent you), will laugh all the way to the trough. It is easy to slam obama and his policies but where were you folks when bush and company spent your great grandchildren's future? Edit to mention: Check out foreign aid and how much we spend there sometime. Think about how much good that money could do if it were kept here in our country and not spent on some dictator's military machine.
We have in the past and present and I am sure we will inthe future. I may look into that book but usually that stuff further inflames my sensibilities.
Points well made Bruce. I just get so sick of the liberal mantra that the rich dont pay any taxes. Believe me, I am not in the top 10%, but it still gripes me. I can agree that there is a huge amount of waste and abuse on both sides of the isle and a lot of the blame rests on our election process and the finance system that goes with it. In my opinion, each party should select their candidates and they should all be given the exact same amount of cash with which to run their campaign. The winner will be the individual that knows how to effectively manage a budget while running a successful campaign. Kind of like the rest of us having to manage our finances to run a home or business. Anyone can look or souond successful if they have unlimited resources. But when they get into office they tend to spend "our" money with the same mindset. By the way, agriculture does in fact have a lot of "welfare", but I dont think you would like the prices of groceries if there wasnt some sort of subsidy system. The commodity prices have barely changed since the 1950's. The poor definitely wouldnt like it. The top 15% of earners are already providing the tax to pay the subsidies. I'm sure they would love the break on taxes. I agree 100% on the foreign aid. We are going broke here at the expese of helping everyone else. And most of that money never gets to its intended use.
The problem I have (and I have to watch) is labeling liberals v. conservatives. The problem is....there are plenty of liberals.....but, the party I typically pull the lever on has almost NO conservatives. My political views haven't been represented in Wash. since Reagan was in office.
I agree with what you are saying but the free market would bring prices down to something reasonable at some point. If you aren't selling your product because you charge too much, a change has to be made somewhere. The subsidies also help dictate what is grown. If you can get a bigger subsidy (tax break or other form) for growing corn and not something else then you will grow lots of corn. Subsidies are also in the form of extremely high tariffs, such as those that prevent foreign sugar from being sold cheaply here. The same thing Japan does with rice. We produce rice much more cheaply than Japan abd could sell it there for a much lower cost to the Japanese consumer but the Japanese gov charges such high tariffs (and does other things I do not remember, old age) that when foreign companys try to sell rice there it costs more than Japanese rice. Same deal with sugar in the USA. It is also my understanding that milk prices would drop a fair bit if the government didn't buy up all the dairy products it can to keep demand artificially high. Welfare cheese, dried milk, etc. is not something made up.
I am in the same boat. I was raised in a very conservative house. My dad "taught" me how to draw a dividing line between political groups. Although it is respectable to "stick to your guns", it is unwise to get lost in labelling people and just dismissing their thoughts without trying to understand the true value of their unique perspective.
