I gave a reason for not lying about it, which is more than your "Everybody Lies" argument. Obviously someone is lying here. Something happened in that bar and Chris didn't have a reason to lie about it, Jesse did. People would have bought Chris's book without the two paragraphs of a bar fight with a no name guy. But if Jesse actually did get put on his *** by Chris he would have a reason to lie about it because he was embarrassed and doesn't want people to know that he was bad mouthing Seals. Also if it was not true, Jesse does deserve justice, but Chris is dead. This was between Jesse and Chris not Chris's wife. So either way this trial against Chris's widow should not have happened.
I could list out all the reasons why people lie but it wouldn't satisfy you. Chris did have a reason to lie, it could've boosted his sales. Contrary to what you may think, his book may have been a bigger success with him lying. Nothing could've happened in the bar for all we know. He could've lied just for bragging rights, there's another reason why people lie, maybe he lied because Jesse pissed him off and that was Chris's chance to get back at him, who knows? Jesse claimed that he had lost revenues from defamation, this is definitely between Jesse and Chris's wife, she now owns the estate, the estate has money, money that Jesse lost. That's why the trial kept going.
Chris also writes that Jesse punched first. Im not going to argue with you if your only point is people lie. If people lie why cant Jesse be lying?
Ventura was not a seal he was UDT diver. The Kyle family did not profit from the book the money was given to Fallen Heroes to help family's who lost a serviceman. Ventura was never mentioned in the book. I feel that once Kyle died Ventura should have just dropped the case. Taya and the children had nothing to do with the book. So to make himself feel better he is hurting a widow and kids of a war hero.
Simply because someone did not keep the money, does not mean that they didn't profit from it. Also, according to this article, no those proceeds did not go to that foundation. In fact, they kept it. 'American Sniper' widow: husband planned to donate book proceeds | Reuters No...Ventura wasn't mentioned in the book, we already went over this.
What does this have to do with anything? Is a Soldier less of a Soldier because he hasn't deployed? Does it make them less of a man or woman? Less trustworthy?
I guess you have not been exposed to Jesse as much as we have to Jesse. Jesse was never a seal he was part of a group that became seals yet Jesse claims he was a seal. No disrespect to the armed services but Jesse is a thin skinned D bag who is a self promoting donkey.
No a soldier isnt less of a soldier if he wasnt deployed in war zones, but he is less of a soldier for saying the seals deserve to lose a few when he was never in combat zones.
Not saying it's right, but I tend to be judgmental towards those who serve in wartime but never in a war zone.
The saga of Chris Kyle, slain Navy SEAL sniper, vs. Jesse Ventura gets day in court - The Washington Post Here is Chris's Side of the story, video and article. I wish this guy was still around. He was the guy that ran towards the shots. Even here he was trying to protect the family of the fallen.
Im sure many people who served in combat feel this way, im also sure that many of the ones who served in elite forces think down on those who served in regular units. Someone always get's **** on. Not saying it's right or wrong either, but it's the way the world works.
I agree. I at least recognize it's an unfair way to judge people, just being honest that I am prejudice that way. I also only really feel that way about people who have served more than a few years and still haven't made it to combat, I understand if it was a short career. In the case of Jesse Ventura I think he should be judged harshly for it because he allowed it to seem like he was a Navy SEAL in Vietnam to the average person.
We all have stereotypes and ways of unfairly judging people, I unfairly judge people for many other things and im slowly trying to change it.
LMFAO I actually logged on to post this link to this thread: ?Lone Survivor? Marcus Luttrell Responds to Jesse Ventura?s Lawsuit Against Chris Kyle Like Only He Can | TheBlaze.com to respond to something Chop said, JV is not less of a "soldier" (soldiers are Army...sailors are Navy....Marines are; well Marines. Or Devil Dogs. Or Leathernecks. Again with the abject lack of military terminology knowledge for someone who is active duty; but I digress) because he did not serve in a combat zone, but JV is less than worthy because he built an entire celebrity career based on being first "a SEAL" which was later debunked; then later forced to admit he never served in Vietnam after he had made several statements over decades that most would interpret as claims that he had served in combat in Vietnam.
Yea I'd actually saw all that on Marcus ' FB yesterday. He also put something about he was asked go make a remark but will keep mouth shut so he doesn't get sued. Your last part is something I completely agree with and why it matters. If you were in combat fine but don't try and say you were for the recognition it gets if you never were. It's the same, almost, as wearing a uniform or claiming awards you don't rate. Sent from my SM-G900R4 using Tapatalk
