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CFB championship Saturday.

Discussion in 'The Water Cooler' started by BJE80, Dec 6, 2014.

  1. Muzzy Man

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    As it worked out... yes. If Miss State had won last week, they would likely still be in there 1 and 2 with Alabama. Ohio State lost early but have been getting better each week. I have no problem with them being in the 4 spot over Baylor or Oregon after watching that practice session. I would like to see all conferences represented... and if you don't win... you can't be voted in.
     
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    After watching the games over the last 2 days, I think the committee really may have it right, the only real debate I personally would have is whether Baylor or FSU should be in, but in the overall realm, I think the lack of DEFENSE is the reason the Big 12 isn't in the mix... But, HONESTLY, I'm not sure who should be #1, OSU/OREGON/ALABAMA, but my gut, not as an OSU fan, but as a FAN of the game itself tells me that it's a toss up between Oregon and OSU, and I can't honestly say that if the OSU team the destroyed Wisconsin shows up for the last two games of the season, ANYONE can play with them!!! If Urban Meyer isn't the Coach of the Year in College Football, then there shouldn't be one!!!
     
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    It will probably head that way in years to come. Problem is there will ALWAYS be a team or two just on the outside looking in no matter how many teams involved. If it's an 8 team playoff it will be number 9 and 10 making a good case to get in. However 8 teams does seem more legit. 4 teams leaves a little bit too much to the imagination still and wanting to see a Baylor or TCU playing one of the other 4. IMO beyond 6-8 nationally ranked shouldn't really have a shot at being national champs anyway. I always thought 6 teams would be perfect. #1 and #2 get first round by. #3 plays #6.... #4 plays #5. Winners play #1 and #2 and so on.... This is still better than the old BCS crap IMO. Right now it would be Bama vs. Oregon for the NC. A lot of people would be left wanting to see at least FSU play one of those teams.
     
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    This would be okay also. Surely more changes will come in the next year or two.
     
  5. BJE80

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    I'll say it again. Take the Champ of every conference and put them in a bracket. No subjective factor then. Win your conference and you are in. Don't win your conference and you have nothing to whine about.


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  6. TEmbry

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    I like this system far better than straight conference champs... Conferences aren't divided equally so why should they be treated equally?
     
  7. NY Bowhunter

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    I don't like that system. It's possible to win your conference and not be top 4 in nation.

    Also ... Notre Dame would never get in.:alien:
     
  8. BJE80

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    Because teams like TCU get hosed with no set rules. It is too subjective. Having a pre-set way to determine how you get in eliminates all this f-ing whining and bickering all the time.
     
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    FIFY.
     
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    I'm fine with that as long as there are 2 "at large" bids

    and TCU/Baylor got hosed
     
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    Agreed. Got to have the "wildcards" for sure.
     
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    run it like you do the NFL. have all of your conference champs and then a couple wild cards.
     
  13. NY Bowhunter

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    As it is now in year one it is still way better than the old BCS system. Right now there would be an uproar of why Oregon or FSU (possibly Ohio St.) arent playing against Bama for the NC game. At least that much can be settled on the field this year. They will have a shot on the field instead of in a computer.
     
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    I can't see the playoffs being extended to more than two rounds. They will say it's too many games.
     
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    I'm not even sure if 8 teams isn't too much... Take the top 8 and 2 loss teams are in.. This takes away all relevance to the season for major programs like Bama or Oregon... They rarely lose more than 2. As it is, every single game matters.

    TCU and Baylor didn't get hosed by anyone other than their own conference leadership. "Co champs"?! Lolol that's lame w a head to head loss for TCU.
     
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    TCU got hosed by the simple fact that they were #3 the week before, beat their opponent by 52 points, and dropped out. They did everything they were supposed to do last week, yet dropped out.

    That was really, really crappy for TCU to get dropped out. If they didn't deserve to be in the top 4 now, they shouldn't have been in the top 4 the week before.
     
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    I have another comment/question about the selection criteria and no one has been able to confirm this one way or another which also adds to the confusion.


    Are the 4 teams supposed to be selected based on how they are playing at the end of the season or the teams that had the best seasons?

    If it is supposed to be the teams with the best seasons then TCU or Baylor should have been in. If it is supposed to be the teams that are playing the best ball right now then OSU should probably be in there.


    So, which one is it? I see arguments all over the place, including on ESPN using both conditions. Seriously, it can't be both and this really leads to more confusion and debate. Either way, it appears to me the panel changed its own criterial the last week here.


    One last thing. Don’t tell me that if TCU had the name Texas on their uniforms they would have been passed up. So, that simply proves it is way too subjective and a load of crap.
     
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  18. TEmbry

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    The committee has said time and time again they look at each week as resumes up to that point. While I don't think they should have jumped FSU, I do think they had a top 4 resume as of that week. One week later, and OSU DESTROYS top 15 wisconsin 59-0... Baylor handily beats #9 KSU (TCUs best win)... and all other top teams held on for a win. When you then reevaluate resumes, they don't make the cut. Bama, Oregon, and FSU were locks. Then it comes down to Baylor vs OSU (Baylor ended with a better resume than TCU, regardless of the eye test of who is better). I hate OSU but think they deserved the nod over Baylor.

    Conference Championships are pointless if you go to top 8 teams, and sticking with all conference champs isn't a fair method either. I don't like guaranteed seats at the table in any walk of life. Earn your keep.
     
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    I'm pretty sure TCU feels they earned their keep. One loss, on the road, to a top 5 team, by 3 points. And blew out pretty much everyone else including several quality wins. How can you say they didn't earn their keep this season?


    And still, please tell me if they were Texas they would of been passed up the same way.
     
  20. TEmbry

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    How on earth do you guys keep arguing for TCU over Baylor?

    I can MAYBE see the gripe with Baylor getting left out for OSU, but TCU?

    Who should have been left out for TCU or Baylor to make it?
     

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