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Canada's death squad??

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  1. rickmur

    rickmur Die Hard Bowhunter

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    Canada's death squad?? Update on page 4

    A hospital in Canada has determined that life support should be removed form an 11 month old child against the parents wishes. The decision went to a panel of Canada's Health Care system whom in turn Ordered that the child be removed. The father is trying to get his son in the US where he won't be ordered to kill his son. Just saw this on the news but will try to find a link to it somewhere.
    Is this what O'Bamma care holds? It is said somewhat modeled after Canada's system.
    Just the opposite here in the US where the courts have to try to prevent a parent from letting their child die.

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/02/22/canadian-family-fights-babys-beathing-tube-place/
     
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  2. GMMAT

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    Rick:

    If Americans want a glimpse into what Obamacare will be like.........they can look to the one example that best exhibits the US Governement's abilities (or, lack thereof) to run a healthcare system.

    Remember a few years ago, when the media chronicled the conditions @ Walter Reed Military Hospital?

    Why even try to surmise what it might be like? WE KNOW!
     
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  3. Dan

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    After living in Canada for 7 months each of the last 9 years, I am thankful and blessed that I never had to use their facilities. Unfortunately, our country's health care system is headed the same direction.
     
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    Folks, I agree with you. But, I was in the doctors the other day, and they are piecing together 80 year olds with spit and glue. Whatever it takes.

    I mean some things doesn't make sense. I have no idea about this child.

    Let me ask you guys something, how far should it go? Lets say I come up with a machine that costs 1million to run one treatment, for whatever you want to come up with. Should every citizen in America be entitled to this treatment because I came up with a solution no matter the cost?
     
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    DropTine249 Weekend Warrior

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    No government should have the ability to make this decision.

    It's as if we're still "loyal subjects" of a superior, ruling entity...Hmm ?? Cuz this sure as hell could happen in the U.S.. The govenrment can also DENY THE NAME of your child; how about THAT crap ??
     
  6. Germ

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    Girl lost her hands and feet in a American hospital because of a 5 hour wait.

    My fil is no longer able to receive medication because his insurance company will not pay for it anymore.

    Our system just sucks less, unless you have a boat load of money.
     
  7. GMMAT

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    What's the full story, here?
     
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    Germ Legendary Woodsman

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    46 days in the hospital is the story. Insurance company tells hospital not paying for this type of medication anymore.

    Full story is if you get really sick in this country you are going to go bankrupt. You gave so great advice a while back, don't get sick in America.
     
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    MN_Jay Die Hard Bowhunter

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    To play devils advocate I wonder how many other 11 year olds was saved up there because they had healthcare?
     
  10. GMMAT

    GMMAT Grizzled Veteran

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    I thought there was something about his insurance lapsing - due to some errors in administration (not the fault of the ins. co.)???

    Could be wrong.
     
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    How do people get treatment ,If they can't afford insurance,do you just let them die,I really don't know how it works down south. I just hear it can be pretty expensive.
     
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    Germ Legendary Woodsman

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    That's my mother, it's been a great year.
     
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    Our system is great if you have the cash and great health insurance. If you really get sick you're screwed money wise. Private insurance companies can yank your coverage or deny treatment. It's great
     
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    Bowhunter1982 Weekend Warrior

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    What about the poor?
     
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    No body can be denied treatment at an emergency room. There are also clinics for the poor. Most just don't get any care. We also have Medicare for those who quailfy.
     
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    It's according to who you ask, bowhunter.

    There's a helluva lotta US citizens who don't have healthcare.......and it's their own fault. There's a helluva lot that don't have healthcare, and it's not their fault.

    There is one constant, though.....

    For emergency medical services, they can't be denied medical care.

    Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. It's the law.
     
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    Medicaid pays for the poor.
     
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    Bowhunter1982

    Are medical system is the best if you have the money and really good insurance. Where it falls a part is for the middle class if you get sick. Five years ago I had the same views as many here. If you get sick, really sick our system will bankrupt a person. I happen to be very lucky we have great health insurance. I am no longer going to stick my head in the dirt, we need a fix. After reading Obama-care law, it's not the answer either.
     
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    Agreed, I'm one of the (un)lucky ones to have experience rescinding of health insurance policy after submitting claims. The insurance company claimed I lied on my application, and gave me my insurance premiums back while sticking me with a significant amount of uncovered medical bills. Wound up having to stop all testing and treatment and making the decision that unless things got really bad, I wasn't going in. I'm the primary money maker which isn't a good thing for the family all around.

    The only thing I liked about the Obama health care system was that there was no denying for pre-existing medical conditions. Both my wife and I have these and we're denied almost every time for private health insurance. So, I had to close up my business and go work for someone else so i could get in on a group plan.

    As to the original story, it's unfortunate that things like that happen. But, at what cost and point do you keep someone alive? The health insurance is a double edged sword. Most people don't see, nor care about the medical costs so they think "any cost to keep alive". Yet, they turn around and gripe about the premiums going up.
     
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    Xforce your situation is all to familiar here in the USA.
     

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